From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 16 17:18:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA10541 for current-outgoing; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10531; Mon, 16 Jun 1997 17:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA13345; Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:47:00 +0930 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199706170017.JAA13345@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Need to rebuild libkvm,ps,w In-Reply-To: <199706162015.NAA18052@phaeton.artisoft.com> from Terry Lambert at "Jun 16, 97 01:15:22 pm" To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 09:47:00 +0930 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > > Dumb question, why can't we isolate the apps from the proc data structures? > > > > Because the in-kernel infrastructure for arb. data retrieval isn't > > there yet. > > Actually, isn't it really the memory image arguments to ps/w/et. al. > that cause the problem? We could go to /proc tomorrow if /proc > were mandatory and we didn't care about ps'ing crash dumps (doing > that sems to me to be the job of the kernel debugger, anyway). Argh. I keep forgetting that case 8(. Who does still use ps on crash dumps? Is it useful in that form? > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[