From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG  Wed Nov 12 13:33:52 2008
Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>
Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org
Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34])
	by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D45106564A;
	Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:33:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua)
Received: from citadel.icyb.net.ua (citadel.icyb.net.ua [212.40.38.140])
	by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65A38FC24;
	Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:33:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua)
Received: from odyssey.starpoint.kiev.ua (alpha-e.starpoint.kiev.ua
	[212.40.38.101])
	by citadel.icyb.net.ua (8.8.8p3/ICyb-2.3exp) with ESMTP id PAA17993;
	Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:33:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from avg@icyb.net.ua)
Message-ID: <491ADB3B.2090000@icyb.net.ua>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:33:47 +0200
From: Andriy Gapon <avg@icyb.net.ua>
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20081106)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Jeremy Chadwick <koitsu@FreeBSD.org>
References: <4911BA93.9030006@icyb.net.ua> <491ABFCD.3060309@icyb.net.ua>
	<Pine.GSO.4.64.0811120352100.1597@zeno.ucsd.edu>
	<491AC502.9000507@icyb.net.ua>
	<20081112121410.GA24629@icarus.home.lan>
	<491ACA19.2040008@icyb.net.ua>
	<20081112123315.GA24907@icarus.home.lan>
	<491AD0CB.8050309@icyb.net.ua>
	<20081112132124.GA25637@icarus.home.lan>
In-Reply-To: <20081112132124.GA25637@icarus.home.lan>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Cc: Nate Eldredge <neldredge@math.ucsd.edu>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org,
	FreeBSD Stable <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-usb@FreeBSD.org
Subject: Re: ukbd attachment and root mount
X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code <freebsd-stable.freebsd.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>, 
	<mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable>
List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable>,
	<mailto:freebsd-stable-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:33:52 -0000

on 12/11/2008 15:21 Jeremy Chadwick said the following:
> I don't know what to say to ***ANY*** of the above, other than this:
> 
> No one is doing anything about this problem because there does not
> appear to be a 100% reproducible always-screws-up-when-I-do-this
> scenario that happens to *every FreeBSD user*.
> 
> Until we settle down, stop replying to Emails with one-liner injections,
> and compile a list of test scenarios/cases that people can perform, and
> get these people to provide both 1) full hardware details, 2) full
> kernel configuration files, 3) full loader.conf files, and 4) full
> device.hints files, we're not going to get anywhere.

Well I started two separate threads.
This thread is about one very specific issue - ukbd attaching after
mountroot code.
Again, in this thread I am only interested in getting ukbd to attach
before the mount root.
I am not interested in BIOS, boot chain, etc. I am not even interested
in speculations about whether keyboard would work or not at mountroot
prompt if it were attaching before it.

-- 
Andriy Gapon