From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 25 08:35:58 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452E416A405; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:35:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.org) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (trang.nuxi.org [74.95.12.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177C013C461; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:35:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.org) Received: from dragon.nuxi.org (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m1P8ZtJ4040531; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:35:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.org) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.org (8.14.2/8.14.1/Submit) id m1P8ZtIQ040530; Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:35:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:35:55 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Ruslan Ermilov Message-ID: <20080225083555.GB40376@dragon.NUXI.org> Mail-Followup-To: obrien@freebsd.org, Ruslan Ermilov , Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav , Joseph Koshy , current@freebsd.org References: <86wsoxp2ob.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080223201808.GB65540@team.vega.ru> <20080224180433.GA21162@dragon.NUXI.org> <20080224190637.GB18096@team.vega.ru> <20080224193221.GA25526@dragon.NUXI.org> <20080224194358.GC18096@team.vega.ru> <20080224205121.GB27938@dragon.NUXI.org> <20080224212642.GA15362@plan0.kaiwan.csbnet.se> <20080224213434.GA29077@dragon.NUXI.org> <20080225071825.GE18096@team.vega.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080225071825.GE18096@team.vega.ru> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Cc: Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav , current@freebsd.org, Joseph Koshy Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] ar(1) front-end committed. (notes for cross compile) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:35:58 -0000 On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:18:25AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > We've been traditionally (ab)using __FreeBSD_version to bootstrap > things in this way, without necessarily bumping __FreeBSD_version. > There are two reasons: 1) we often don't know if a particular bug > or change affects bootstrapping, so we don't always bump it. For > example, a change in libc may cause some utility to be put to the > list of bootstrap-tools, and we don't discover it until the > version is bumped for another reason. Right, but once you've attached added significance to a particular __FreeBSD_version (after the fact) it really should be documented in the Porter's Handbook. At least I used to go add to a particular __FreeBSD_version entry once I started using that value for something other than the original bumping reason. > 2) there's no harm in bootstrapping more than necessary. Duplicated effort, and long build world times. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)