From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 19 16:49:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gnome@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C49D16A400; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:49:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@freebsd.org) Received: from av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (hen.cisco.com [64.102.19.198]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E36413C45A; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:49:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marcus@freebsd.org) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from rooster.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-rtp.cisco.com (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id l3JGnSd18916; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [64.102.202.122] (dhcp-64-102-202-122.cisco.com [64.102.202.122]) by rooster.cisco.com (8.11.7p3+Sun/8.11.7) with ESMTP id l3JGnQq25594; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46279D96.1030600@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:49:26 -0400 From: Joe Marcus Clarke Organization: FreeBSD, Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Macintosh/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Nottebrock References: <200704191822.28308.lofi@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200704191822.28308.lofi@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [kde-freebsd] problem hal - k3b ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 16:49:29 -0000 Michael Nottebrock wrote: > I forgot to cc gnome@ on my reply. I don't think this is a HAL bug, but just > FYI. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: [kde-freebsd] problem hal - k3b ? > From: > Michael Nottebrock > Date: > Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:12:46 +0200 > To: > kde@freebsd.org > > To: > kde@freebsd.org > CC: > Beni , h.eichmann@gmx.de, current@freebsd.org, > stable@freebsd.org > > > On Wednesday, 18. April 2007, Beni wrote: >> Hi List, >> >> I think I have a problem with hal(d) and k3b (version 1.0 from ports) : my >> whole system freezes when starting up k3b. I get the splash screen and then >> it all stops and a ctrl-alt-del is the only way out. > > Other people have reported kernel panics. It looks to me like k3b's device > probing and hald's device probing at the same time manages to tickle a bug in > ata(4). > > Ref: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2007-April/070753.html > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2007-April/034486.html > > I'm afraid a true kernel hacker will have to inconvenince themselves with > running k3b and hal in order to have this one fixed. FWIW, I haven't seen in > happening on 5.5. This should have been fixed a while ago by jylefort when he set the default device for ATAPI access to be the ATAPICAM device (as opposed to the ATA device). Assuming you have not undone that change, and are running the latest version of HAL, these panics should not be occurring. Even still, you're right that these are not HAL bugs, but rather an issue in the kernel. I use nautilus-cd-burner to burn CDs in GNOME, and I have never had such a panic on 6-STABLE. n-c-b uses cdrecord, cdrao, and dvd-utils under the covers to do the actual device work. Not sure what k3b is using, but maybe it diddles something it shouldn't. Joe -- Joe Marcus Clarke FreeBSD GNOME Team :: gnome@FreeBSD.org FreeNode / #freebsd-gnome http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome