Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 20:13:27 +1100 From: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> To: Heiko Recktenwald <uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Cc: shoe latif <slatif@petrosys.com>, Sven Bentlage <S.Bentlage@gmx.de>, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: slow is beautiful [was: FreeBSD on Macintosh] Message-ID: <20001121201325.A377@welearn.com.au> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0011210048070.342-100000@moritz.alleswirdgelber>; from Heiko Recktenwald on Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 12:49:11AM %2B0100 References: <3A19458F.97BEACB0@petrosys.com> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0011210048070.342-100000@moritz.alleswirdgelber>
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On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 12:49:11AM +0100, Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > > run a FreeBSD system on a 486 PC? > > Yes, easily. I think Sue Blake is an expert in running it on 386 ;-) Within limits, yes. I don't recommend it, though, unless you are willing and able to spend hours giving it TLC and already have the skills to do so without outside help. It runs better with very old versions of FreeBSD, which requires a lot of hand-updating to keep up with security, and means you can't install recent versions of software packages, only what came on the CD, and that too has security implications. So "don't try this at home kids" unless you just want to learn a bit of unix on a system that will never be networked (no modem or ethernet connection etc). Running a recent FreeBSD version on a 486 is probably something like running earlier versions on a 386. With some care in the setting up it'll make a fine router/nameserver machine, and with ongoing maintenance it can also be a great little mail and web server for a home or small business network. If it's in your bedroom it's a versatile alarm clock as well. Make cron your friend and add the PC speaker to the kernel some time when you're going out so that it gets a chance to do the compiling without you there watching the clock. If you're running on small ancient hardware, ditch all thoughts of GUI, have as much memory as you can and a ridiculously large amount of swap, I guess 50 megs more than RAM (I've got 100 and that's more than I need). Avoid running majordomo or anything that causes perl to flog the disk, don't bother trying to compile stuff, put the radio on to entertain you during the wait for man pages to format for display, and clear out of there just before 2am or you'll be deaf by morning. Once you get in the swing of it, running a slow machine is like meditating. You might even start to enjoy the change of pace. Think of it as your country house where there is time to relax and enjoy the essence of unadorned unix. Remember that the machine is not there to amuse you; you are there to support the machine and to delight in each new puppy-dog achievement. Once you've been a contented 386 or 486 user for a while, your friends will start to notice. When you upgrade to a very low end pentium you'll be able to do just about anything your heart desires, GUI and all. Just don't neglect RAM and never never skimp on swap space. If you're using FreeBSD to learn unix and you have a very old machine, it will be good for your education. It's interesting to see how much more time some things take than others, without having to run a separate program to measure the small differences that you could not perceive on a faster computer. This makes a slow machine a good place to learn shell scripting, for example. I've been running a 386 at home since when they were fashionable, but at work I look after huge alpha servers. I'm sure I run these powerful monsters well because of having spent years forced to listen to what the heart of each machine is saying just to make the bloody thing run. It's a whole different approach, and you can apply it anywhere, even to people. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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