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Date:      Wed, 13 May 1998 00:57:27 -0500
From:      "Frank Pawlak" <fpawlak@execpc.com>
To:        dg@root.com
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: BSD vs Linux 
Message-ID:  <199805130057270627.00F7F70D@mailgate.execpc.com>
In-Reply-To: <199805130549.WAA04218@implode.root.com>
References:  <199805130549.WAA04218@implode.root.com>

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Thanks David,

I appreciate the history and the growth run rate numbers.  I really hope we
can come together as a team and make some things happen.
Regards,

Frank
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On 5/13/98, at 12:51 AM, David Greenman wrote: 

>>What was it that attracted all the attention to what was in essence a
make
>>over of Minux, given that BSD was already in existence?  It doesn't
appear
>>that there were or are restrictions in BSD on kernel and subsystem
>>development or were there?  It appears that BSD hackers as well as users
>>are for the most part an older group in contrast to the Linux community.
>>What was or is it that attracted the attention of the young hackers to
>>Linux and not to BSD?  That fundamental something that I am seeking is
the
>>key to the almost fanatical growth and creation of the illusion that
Linux
>>is the "cream" of the "open source" operating systems.  Or, is it in fact
>>not an illusion at all?  Why did Linux, late to the game, blow by BSD
like
>>shit through a tin horn, and now is everybody's darling?  Why is it that
>>every time the question of why one or the other is the better OS comes
up,
>>even on the BSD NG, no definitive answer is given?  Does all of this
>>condense into just a matter of hackers tearing at each other's throats?
>
>   Linux started several years before 386BSD and nearly three years before
>FreeBSD. Prior to 386BSD, there wasn't a freeware version of BSD
available.
>You had to pay $20K to AT&T for a 32V (?) source license. Linus started
>Linux because he wanted to hack on Unix and couldn't ("because I was a
>poor Finish college student"). If 386BSD had been released from Berkeley
>just two years earlier, Linux would never have happend (according to
Linus).
>   The timing here is important because the year-to-year growth of both
>Linux and FreeBSD are very similar; the difference is that Linux got
started
>building their usership years before we did.
>
>>I have read in an article listed on BSDI's web page that they have
>>something like 7,000 customers running over 75,000 servers.  We must have
>
>   Current estimates for FreeBSD's installed base is more than 5 times
that
>and may be as high as 10 times that figure.
>
>-DG
>
>David Greenman
>Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project

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