From owner-svn-ports-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 1 11:09:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 7478A805; Wed, 1 Apr 2015 11:09:43 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 11:09:43 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Kubilay Kocak Subject: Re: svn commit: r369643 - head/misc/getopt Message-ID: <20150401110943.GA82458@FreeBSD.org> References: <201409301619.s8UGJg6b078754@svn.freebsd.org> <543844FA.1010908@FreeBSD.org> <551ADD5F.1060004@FreeBSD.org> <551BCF17.2050303@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <551BCF17.2050303@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Cc: Sunpoet Po-Chuan Hsieh , svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, Bryan Drewery X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 11:09:43 -0000 On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 09:57:27PM +1100, Kubilay Kocak wrote: > On 1/04/2015 4:46 AM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > >> Were these updates even tested? [...] > >> This broke xorg, git, xfce, qt, the list goes on. No packages are > >> provided for this large list this week. > >> > >> Commits _must be tested_. > > > > Sorry for being so harsh here. (To Bryan) nothing to be sorry about. Trivially avoidable fuckups should not be tolerated. > +1 > > We need more things that help us 'fail fast', 'fail cheap', 'fail safe' > and 'fail closed', independent of, and in addition to 'test commits'. We already have 1) tinderbox; and 2) pre. On a related note, I see the line QAT in every commit message that leads nowhere. Why don't we fix that thing, or remove stale and non-working link? ./danfe