From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Nov 29 14:46:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-31-203-60.mmcable.com [65.31.203.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01D1A37B41B for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:46:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29581 invoked by uid 100); 29 Nov 2001 22:46:13 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15366.47797.671224.533868@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:46:13 -0600 To: John Baldwin Cc: Mike Meyer , Giorgos Keramidas , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Anthony Atkielski , Eric Melville Subject: Re: Feeding the Troll (Was: freebsd as a desktop ?) In-Reply-To: References: <15366.46954.596994.653640@guru.mired.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin types: > On 29-Nov-01 Mike Meyer wrote: > > Eric Melville types: > >> This is an excellent point which the most everyone seems to miss these > >> days. I find windows very difficult to use as a desktop. Too much clicking, > >> and not enough tools. So, for windows being user-friendly, I am a user too, > >> and I don't find it friendly at all. > > > > Quite correct. Let's take a very simple but very common task - moving > > the focus to another window. The GOMS measure for that in ratpoison is > > 1.95 seconds; with Windows I believe it comes out to 3.45 seconds, > > meaning using Windows is over 50% slower than ratpoison for that very > > common operation. Of course, if there's some other way to move the > > focus other than move your hand to the mouse, point at the window and > > click on it, those calculations will be off. > > Alt-Tab cycles through windows. It may be off by default though. That one's hard to calculate, because you don't know how many windows you'll have to go through. On my desktop, it could be as low as 1.55 seconds, or as high as 10.85 seconds. I'd call it 6.2 seconds as an average, meaning it's much worse than any of the other alternatives. Thanx, http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Q: How do you make the gods laugh? A: Tell them your plans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message