From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Thu May 7 18:08:47 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B7C2E03E0 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 18:08:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from debdrup@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49J1g25Bqvz4W5k for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 18:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from debdrup@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B22732E03DF; Thu, 7 May 2020 18:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EA52E03DE for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 18:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from debdrup@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::24b:4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49J1g24FrGz4W5j for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 18:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from debdrup@FreeBSD.org) Received: from nerd-thinkpad.local (unknown [85.27.246.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: debdrup) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B85854F9 for ; Thu, 7 May 2020 18:08:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from debdrup@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 20:08:44 +0200 From: Daniel Ebdrup Jensen To: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Regarding /cdrom in hier(7) Message-ID: <20200507180844.7kb5hdn7awqejsay@nerd-thinkpad.local> Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Ebdrup Jensen , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" References: <20200507112346.GA53286@freefall.freebsd.org> <202005071626.047GQQH1048671@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <20200507174554.3agocyzveprspnyi@nerd-thinkpad.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7lf3v42qvu7zphzz" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.30 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 18:08:47 -0000 --7lf3v42qvu7zphzz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 12:00:47PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: >On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 11:46 AM Daniel Ebdrup Jensen >wrote: > >> On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 09:26:26AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> >> After a bit of a long conversation on IRC, I've concluded that perhaps >> >> it's time for the /cdrom entry in hier(7) to be sent off to better >> >> pastures. >> >> >> >> It's got a bit of a weird history where, before it was implemented, >> >> sysinstall used /mnt/dists until that was changed on the 22nd of May >> >> 1995, as shown on [1] - and it isn't readily apparent why it was >> >> changed, as presumably information from cdroms could easily have been >> >> extracted into /mnt/dists from /mnt/cdrom? >> >> >> >> After then, it spent a bunch of years being hard-coded, until on >> >> the 22nd of January, 1997 when it was changed to fix media >> >> initialization, as shown on [2]. >> >> >> >> Media initialization then got moved, along with the rest of >> >> sysinstall, with [3], where it spent its days until [4] where >> >> nwhitehorn@ gave it a proper sendoff. >> >> >> >> So my proposal is this: Do we remove /cdrom from hier(7), because at >> >> this point nobody should've been using it some time after 1997, or do >> >> we keep it around since people might still be using it? >> >> >> >> Yours hopefully, >> >> Daniel Ebdrup Jensen >> >> >> >> [1]: >> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/release/sysinstall/media_strategy.c?r1=8701&r2=8702&pathrev=8790& >> >> [2]: >> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/release/sysinstall/cdrom.c?revision=21937&view=markup&pathrev=21937 >> >> [3]: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/71150 >> >> [4]: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/225937 >> > >> > >> >It is time to go, BUTT you need to clean up more than just hier(7), >> >as this like most changes in FreeBSD is a weed and it has roots >> >all over the place: >> > >> >:root {1007}# find /usr/share/man -type f | xargs zgrep -i /cdrom >> >./man1/locate.1.gz:$ locate -d $HOME/lib/mydb::/cdrom/locate.database foo >> >./man1/locate.1.gz:.Pa /cdrom/locate.database . >> >./man1/cdcontrol.1.gz:.Pa /dev/cdrom , >> >./man1/recoverdisk.1.gz:recoverdisk /cdrom/file.avi file.avi >> >./man8/ggatec.8.gz:client# mount_cd9660 /dev/ggate0 /cdrom >> >./man8/mount.8.gz:mount -t cd9660 -o -e /dev/cd0 /cdrom >> >./man8/mount.8.gz:/sbin/mount_cd9660 -e /dev/cd0 /cdrom >> >./man8/mount_cd9660.8.gz:.Dl "mount_cd9660 -o rw -v -s 0 /dev/cd0 /cdrom" >> >./man5/devfs.conf.5.gz:.Pa /dev/cdrom >> >./man5/devfs.conf.5.gz:.Pa /dev/cdrom >> >./man5/exports.5.gz:/cdrom -alldirs,quiet,ro -network 192.168.33.0 -mask >> 255.255.255.0 >> >./man5/exports.5.gz:.Pa /cdrom >> >./man5/exports.5.gz:.Pa /cdrom >> >./man5/exports.5.gz:.Pa /cdrom >> >./man5/exports.5.gz:.Pa /cdrom , >> >./man5/exports.5.gz:.Pa /cdrom >> >./man5/fstab.5.gz:/dev/cd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto >> 0 0 >> >./man7/hier.7.gz:.It Pa /cdrom/ >> > >> >-- >> >Rod Grimes >> rgrimes@freebsd.org >> >> Thanks, Rod. >> >> That's why I thought I'd ask first, because I knew it was not just the >> man-page >> that needed tending to - though I see you've found even more instances >> than I >> did in a quick grep through things. I'll make a note of all the places, >> then >> wait a bit longer to see if anyone has anything to say on the topic, then >> set to it. >> >> Hopefully I'll get around to it some time before hedgehogs start >> hibernating. :) >> > >The handbook also has a lot of references too: > >% cd doc/head >% grep -r /cdrom en_US.ISO8859-1/ | grep -v cdrom.com | wc > 478 1457 56420 > >Warner Fair enough, maybe it'll be some time after hedgehogs stop hibernating then. ;) Yours, Daniel Ebdrup Jensen. --7lf3v42qvu7zphzz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAABCgB9FiEEDonNJPbg/JLIMoS6Ps5hSHzN87oFAl60TqVfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDBF ODlDRDI0RjZFMEZDOTJDODMyODRCQTNFQ0U2MTQ4N0NDREYzQkEACgkQPs5hSHzN 87rKqgf+J/rcIm92JhUenIN1YZ7c8/iCF1y/7sCySvrRrVcLdQ9+M0Ly+9TPwzbI OYZX0wXxIEAu19Yird+Y8flAnVgq+IgByrfm+qXTndtH0vB4y3aNZVYHuy6z/oex Z0DiqeNamk5ii3rwfua1ev4TO4kFqejvdheToEAV/UrTDDHzvBH7ydd4m1BqI6tq SVNPzrumQpf9aAbaxOFGDGJGR3KhrxmK75zZ81IZq1WFZeFzZz21hUT2iyhpvaa0 z5z2lXQ8hteUN+2dqiuH3V+8PGDO+32VfmsyxQxMdATLVYU3jVL/oPqO9y6oaLvu R1DnUhzywgYAtYWIeRfIkb572nN2fA== =n9mj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7lf3v42qvu7zphzz--