From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Feb 3 4:29:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB1237B401 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 04:28:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f13CSq436012 ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:28:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id NAA98291 ; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:29:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:29:10 +0100 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Terry Lambert , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: quote about open source Message-ID: <20010203132910.K94275@lpt.ens.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Kris Kennaway , Terry Lambert , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010202151744.O38235@lpt.ens.fr> <200102022305.QAA16383@usr08.primenet.com> <20010203040747.B35712@xor.obsecurity.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010203040747.B35712@xor.obsecurity.org>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 04:07:47AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kris Kennaway said on Feb 3, 2001 at 04:07:47: > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 11:05:58PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > waving. Even today, unless you take your QED classes from an > > extremely enlightened professor, you are likely to not ever hear > > about Clifford algebras, and even get a theoretical physics > > degree, without laying your hands on this important tool. > > Umm, I'm not sure how you could learn QED without encountering a > clifford algebra. That's essentially the defining relation of spinor > fields (fermions), i.e. they carry a representation of the clifford > algebra: > > \{ \psi^\mu, \psi^\nu \} = \eta^{\mu\nu} That's right, I remember. I'd forgotten the name (one hardly uses this stuff in condensed matter...) but this is as fundamental to QED/relativistic quantum mechanics as the usual commutation relations are to ordinary quantum mechanics... and is surely older than Feynman or Dyson. Probably Dirac. R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message