From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 22 20:29:49 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006E61065675 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:29:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: from ethic.thought.org (plato.thought.org [209.180.213.209]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B2F8FC13 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thought.org (tao.thought.org [10.47.0.250]) (authenticated bits=0) by ethic.thought.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o7MKTh7N063551; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:29:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@thought.org) Received: by thought.org (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1002 kline@thought.org; Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:29:42 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Roland Smith Message-ID: <20100822202942.GB32780@thought.org> References: <20100820213828.GB71642@thought.org> <20100821000740.GB72182@thought.org> <4C6FBA80.6050103@gmail.com> <20100821231317.GA52873@thought.org> <20100822083446.GB10811@slackbox.erewhon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100822083446.GB10811@slackbox.erewhon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Organization: Thought Unlimited. Public service Unix since 1986. X-Of_Interest: With 24 years of service to the Unix community. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.9 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on ethic.thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: anybody onlist know about KVM stuff? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:29:49 -0000 On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:34:46AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 04:13:17PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 06:37:36AM -0500, Depo Catcher wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 8/20/2010 7:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > >On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:45:11PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote: > > > >>On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > > > >> > > > >>>of my three tower cases still linked by wires so i can "click-over" > > > >>>to each and use my one screen and keyboard, my server > > > >>>[ethic|ns1.thought.org] has a bad wire to my keyboard. so i really > > > >>>cannot do much on ethic. > > > >>> > > > >>>i've crawled down under 8 or 9 times and messed with various wires. > > > >>>that was extremely hard as fruitless. (things were|everything WAS) > > > >>>working fine until i added my battery backup. the guy who helped me > > > >>>with that 700-pound beast must have gotten something mixed up. because > > > >>>of his age (70's) and fraility i don't want to ask him to crawl around > > > >>>under there (&c). the two boxes that are working are impossible for me > > > >>>to pull out and look at. hopefully there are a couple freebsd types > > > >>>who rely on kvm wires to do serious work and can give me some clues. > > > >>> > > > >>/usr/ports/sysutils/synergy > > > >> > > > > > > > > this looks very interesting, thank you. the catch is that it > > > > depends on X. i don't have X installed on the server. ..... > > > > > > > > > > ssh? > > > > > > > sure. for simple things. but i need to get X going to get my UPS > > set up. also, to properly upgrade things. i was upgrading via > > ssh and something broke. it took an hour of messing around to get > > ethic back up, fsck'd , and mail working. > > You just said two things that seem to contradict each other. You said you need > to get X going to get the UPS set up, but earlier you said you don't have X > installed on the server? > > Why would you need X to "properly upgrade things?" The upgrading of both the > OS and ports works primarily with command-line tools. Do you realize that you can > make more than one ssh connection to a server in case you want e.g. one shell > to make run programs in and another to keep an eye on things. > > If you don't have X set up on the server, you should use ssh (or telnet if you > have a trusted network). If you do have X set up on the server, you can use > the net/vnc port to view the server's X11 screen on another machine. And ssh > can also do X forwarding. no X11, but i do need it. is there a way of getting, say, [c]twm configured remotely? i managed to have portupgrade finish succesfuully last night without breaking anything. there were 33 things that failed, 0 skipped, and More than 450 ports successfully upgraded. i checked with pkgdb -Favf; it worked. what failed was related to the x11 drivers. the machine is a 2009 dell 550 inspiron. i do not want to do too much with X so as to avoid some kind of crash that will break everything. still, it would be nice to have X for /root and for the UPS. the server and telco "modem" is my connection to the outside world so i don't want to take too many risks. but now that everything is up to date [port-wise], now what? gary > > Roland > -- > R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ > [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] > pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) -- Gary Kline kline@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org