From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 10 12:48:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44B537B401; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8AJlWT52332; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Cc: jason@dstc.edu.au, hubs@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.4 upcoming release/timetabling/mirroring In-Reply-To: <200109101752.f8AHqeZ10670@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <20010910093357K.jkh@freebsd.org> <200109101752.f8AHqeZ10670@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010910124732B.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:47:32 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 27 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Garrett Wollman Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.4 upcoming release/timetabling/mirroring Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:52:40 -0400 (EDT) > Sounds like you totally missed Jason's point, again. No, I didn't miss it. You and Jason are simply asking for information I don't have to give you and you're not going to get. Each release comes together from a number of sources and nobody knows in advance just how big it's all going to be in the aggregate. I might know how big the "release bits" are (about 380MB), but I don't know the size of all the packages until I get them broken out by Steve, and he tends to get those sets to me as late as possible. He, in turn, has little idea how big the final ISO images of them are going to be since mkisofs using quite a few megabytes just for the metadata, and that depends largely on the sheer number of files there are on a given volume. Add to this the fact that 4.4-RELEASE will be the first one to incorporate 5 ISO images by default, so we can't even go by past metrics to come up with an exact size. If you haven't got the time or energy to properly administer a mirror given these sorts of unknowns then I can only suggest that you find someone else to administer it for you or take it off line. We have plenty of mirrors these days for which disk space isn't at such a premium that they have to clean house in advance of every release. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message