From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 24 09:05:48 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2C416A4CF for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:05:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491B643D1D for ; Sat, 24 Apr 2004 09:05:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre@freebsd.org) Received: (qmail 16574 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2004 16:05:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO freebsd.org) ([62.48.0.54]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 24 Apr 2004 16:05:46 -0000 Message-ID: <408A9059.B31E720A@freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 18:05:45 +0200 From: Andre Oppermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Evans References: <20040424154328.24028.qmail@web80105.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: net@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TCP vulnerability X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 16:05:48 -0000 Alan Evans wrote: > > I agree, but what's most important is to maintain > backward compatibility. If one breaks it, it's a DoS > is some sense. I also saw some postings on NetBSD > which does ratelimiting of ACKs (in response to SYNs), > and ACKs RST. IMHO, the latter is bogus - why ACK a > RST? And, the former may impose an artificial limit > of some sort. Dunno about the rate limiting. The ACK of the RST is recommended in the paper you have referenced but only when sequence number of the segment with the RST is not the next expected but within the window. Makes sense to reduce the chances of an successful blind reset from 2^32/win to 2^32. With large windows definitely a win by an order of an magnitude. -- Andre