Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:04:59 +1000 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org> To: doug@safeport.com Cc: FreeBSD Questions <questions@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: why I am upset Message-ID: <20120529040459.GA81535@dereel.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1205271529520.55625@fledge.watson.org> References: <201205252012.07799.lumiwa@gmail.com> <D36DA019-5E9A-4E6C-9038-99C8D8F9BD1D@my.gd> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1205271015500.48564@wonkity.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1205271529520.55625@fledge.watson.org>
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--9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, 22 January 2005 at 9:53:53 +0000, doug@safeport.com wrote: > On Sun, 27 May 2012, Warren Block wrote: > >> There can be a tremendous investment of time in using software, whether >> "free" or not. Money too, often. >> >> Those who work to write, port, and support free software also spend a >> tremendous amount of time in doing that. Money too, often. >> >> So both parties have a large investment, and it's easy but counterproduc= tive >> to get emotional about it. Take a deep breath, be polite, and try to >> appreciate the other guy's problems. Otherwise it just ends up creating= more >> problems, and there are already enough. > > Warren makes a great point. In years past Greg Lehey used to post, > "How to ask a question", or something similar. "How to get best results from FreeBSD questions". > Its worth resurrecting that. It's still there in the FreeBSD web site: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/freebsd-questions/ If people are getting upset, maybe it's worth reading it again. > As I recall, the major points were: Nobody here is getting paid to > do this; there are a great number of people with a wealth of > information willing to help; and, its up to the one asking the > question to do it in such a way as to peak someones interest. Yes, that's a good paraphrase. FWIW I think that Mitja has a point, even if in his frustration he put it badly. It's a pity that nobody here tried to get him to calm down and say what went wrong or enter a PR. While it's true that we're all volunteers, that doesn't mean we shouldn't be proud of our product and want to fix it if things go wrong. Greg --=20 Sent from my desktop computer Finger grog@FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua --9amGYk9869ThD9tj Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk/ESuoACgkQIubykFB6QiOK7wCfTdi2aUYDMB/AaTCzXK3qgsNJ H20AoLKbRm3UMyevlr6VXl5bQI1HHY6G =tmAr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9amGYk9869ThD9tj--
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