From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 10:46:14 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB20106564A; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matt.thyer@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D9F8FC13; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so10734347wyj.13 for ; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 03:46:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=KD29SQU6QaWZoe9Zr3mf8Y/mxEO4MB4AKiGHZnubkZw=; b=sc1vSI2ZbwCOsBabSiaTuuRMYx84tcIZyb60d3sawfCvf/cpNgOjw1AX8kshrdGKs8 6arByZJB+MeOk9PbJo3p4Wf09vJq/7lP+76yvJk0t6EsVhz8Z1JQZQILwW/i+U3G4nDt C16xourg08aLEzYUxChOt62jIerddptKYOi0U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.143.222 with SMTP id l72mr7580732wej.46.1318328242628; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 03:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.36.18 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 03:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.36.18 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 03:17:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20111011063602.GO68552@droso.net> References: <20111011063602.GO68552@droso.net> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:47:22 +1030 Message-ID: From: Matt Thyer To: Erwin Lansing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, portmgr@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Update on ports on 10.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:46:14 -0000 On Oct 11, 2011 5:07 PM, "Erwin Lansing" wrote: > > Since the release has been pushed back some more since the last mail, we > do have some time to test a possible fix for the issues we're seeing > with libtool on FreeBSD 10.0. [snip] > to move forward. Other options include the big find/grep/awk solution > that has been posted several times and fiddling with uname to go to > FreeBSD 9.99 for a while, while ports can be fixed. I would vote for a prominent message in the places people who run -CURRENT are meant to pay attention to (this mailing list and UPDATING and the ports equivalents). The message should point people to a web site (wiki?) with the latest news on how to report and provide patches for fixes with guidance on typical solutions. After all, this is -CURRENT and it's users are meant to be contributing fixes and are not expected to require their hands to be held. This I believe would be a good method to leverage the community so as to distribute the fixup problem. In particular the hack of 9.99 is likely to cause more problems and should be avoided. My 2=A2