From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 29 20:52:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C1CE963; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4111A3F0; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:52:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [73.34.117.227] (helo=ilsoft.org) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Xup09-000FuF-18; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:52:21 +0000 Received: from [172.22.42.240] (revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id sATKqJAH001578; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:52:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ian@FreeBSD.org) X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Originating-IP: 73.34.117.227 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX180jlJua7OLtvYER4Csd9c4 X-Authentication-Warning: paranoia.hippie.lan: Host revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240] claimed to be [172.22.42.240] Subject: Re: I'd like to axe some drivers From: Ian Lepore To: Don Lewis In-Reply-To: <201411292016.sATKFvlq060213@gw.catspoiler.org> References: <201411292016.sATKFvlq060213@gw.catspoiler.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:52:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1417294339.87127.12.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org, jmg@funkthat.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:52:28 -0000 On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 12:15 -0800, Don Lewis wrote: > Catching up ... > > > The CardBus ones (dc, fxp, rl, re and xl) are less no-brainerish. Older 64-bit > > laptops have only CardBus, and some have these built-in. Since these types > > of systems are rare, and rarely NFS boot, having them as modules is likely > > fine. > > The re interface is very common on recent consumer-grade AMD > motherboards and it would not be good to break network boot and network > install on them. I'm not sure how re found its way into this discussion, but it wasn't on the original list of proposed deletions, and it wasn't in jmg's list of 100BT nics to leave out of amd64's GENERIC. -- Ian