From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jan 2 0: 2: 5 2001 From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 2 00:02:03 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FB037B402 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 00:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id JAA04603; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:01:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14DMOI-0003CX-00 for ; Tue, 02 Jan 2001 09:01:54 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 09:01:54 +0100 From: Szilveszter Adam To: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Writing firewall rules Message-ID: <20010102090153.A11476@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: Szilveszter Adam , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" References: <20010102.1480000@bartequi.ottodomain.org> <200101020206.UAA82560@mailbox.mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200101020206.UAA82560@mailbox.mcs.net>; from tforrest@mcs.net on Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 09:10:00PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Sorry for recycling this message, I already deleted the original... On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 09:10:00PM -0500, Tommy Forrest - KE4PYM wrote: > >> Also, why would the OS (4.0) report that a user has mail when, in > >> real life, they start pine and find they have no mail? For example, > >> as root, I get my daily output logs in my mail box. But when I > >> delete them, log out and log back in I'm told I have mail, start pine > >> and there is no mail. This is pine "feature" that I have occasionally encountered as well (and is not FreeBSD-related at all.) Pine creates a pseudo-message in your inbox (and all other mail folders) that contains folder data it (pine) uses. (also, the uw-imap daemon, coming from the same house, uses them) Pine will not show this "message" to you but if you use another mailer, it will show up as "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE....blahblah" (no I am not shouting it is all in caps.) Now, to your problem. Normally the shell will not detect this message and therefore will not tell you that you have mail when this is the only thing in your inbox. (At least bash does get this right most of the time) But, sometimes it notices this message and reports (not entirely incorrectly) that you have mail. The "fix" I have found to this is that I start up the old mail(1) program. It will show this message. Don't do anything, just type mail and then, quit (type q) and, misteriously this always seems to have solved this for me. (I know this because users complained of the same thing you just have) Or, use another mailer that does not require such tricks. I use Mutt:-) -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message