From owner-freebsd-arch Tue Jul 16 9:47:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E206037B400 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.22.40]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC66043E31 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.netel.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g6GGlmdW109332; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:47:48 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020716073232.GD55378@elvis.mu.org> References: <200207151718.g6FHIkof007662@dotar.thuvia.org> <20020715182957.GA32690@lizzy.catnook.com> <20020716073232.GD55378@elvis.mu.org> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 12:47:47 -0400 To: Jon Mini From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: An odd scripting language Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.3 (www dot roaringpenguin dot com slash mimedefang) Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:32 AM -0700 7/16/02, Jon Mini wrote: >On Mon, Jul 15, 2002, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > > >> At the same time, I don't think we can ever "be safe" with some >> standard scripting language in the base system, because that >> scripting language will change over time. And my guess is that >> any good scripting language will eventually evolve into it's own >> "OS-neutral" platform, and thus grow into a monster that we won't > > want to have in our base system. > >However, I am intruiged by your assertion here. It implies that >perhaps a good direction to try would be to build a scripting >language that is tied to FreeBSD, but contains elements that makes >it easy to pick up by people who are already comfortable with >the popular scripting languages. That is kind of where I'm heading in my own thoughts, but you immediately run into problems over "what should that language look like?". I'd like something that looks like ruby, because I like ruby. I have friends who swear by python, so they'd probably like something that looked like python. If I really were to pursue this, I guess I'd first try to figure out what exactly it is that (say) ruby provides which is missing from plain sh/awk/sed, and then try to provide that minimal set of missing capability. The problem is that I'd rather just write some scripts in ruby than to try to figure out some new, minimalist scripting language... -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@gilead.netel.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message