From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 04:38:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6224F37B404; Mon, 19 May 2003 04:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franky.speednet.com.au (franky.speednet.com.au [203.57.65.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D7443F3F; Mon, 19 May 2003 04:38:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [203.38.96.242])h4JBcKwP043858; Mon, 19 May 2003 21:38:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from hewey.af.speednet.com.au (hewey.af.speednet.com.au [172.22.2.1])h4JBcJYm095877; Mon, 19 May 2003 21:38:20 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 21:38:19 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-X-Sender: andyf@hewey.af.speednet.com.au To: Ruslan Ermilov In-Reply-To: <20030519113137.GF17366@sunbay.com> Message-ID: <20030519213449.Y93323-100000@hewey.af.speednet.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: man(1) oddity - was: HEADS UP: bzip2(1) compression for manpages... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:38:23 -0000 On Mon, 19 May 2003, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 09:26:26PM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: > > > > Here is a table of what I *really* see: > > > > FreeBSD-4.8: > > | no catpage | catpage > > Normal user | fmt msg, waits | no msg, no wait > > Super user | fmt msg, waits | no msg, no wait > > > > FreeBSD-5.1-B: > > > > Normal user | no msg, waits | no msg, no wait > > Super user | fmt msg, waits | no msg, no wait > > > > > > The difference is Normal user. > > > This example is wrong. With your example you're timing the > formatting of the whole manpage, and I'm telling you that > normal man(1) invocation (with PAGER) will start showing you > something on your terminal much sooner. No, thats what I *really* *see* without redirection or anything. Plain old `man ppp` command. I only used the `> /dev/null` example because the same thing is experienced by the user. Please boot up 5.1-B on a slow box and type 'man ppp'. You'll see what I mean then. -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/