From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Oct 10 01:24:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA07315 for freebsd-isp-outgoing; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 01:24:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dream.future.net (future.net [204.130.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07305 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 01:24:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomthai@future.net) Received: from dream.future.net (tomthai@[204.130.134.20] (may be forged)) by dream.future.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id DAA18764; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 03:15:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 03:15:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Tom T. Thai" To: Doug Russell cc: Steve Kaczkowski , Kevin Lam , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD & DSL technology In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug, I'm been working with my telco to try for dry copper but the insisted that both end points should be served by the same common switch/exchange point? Have you found this to be true? On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Doug Russell wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Steve Kaczkowski wrote: > > > > Does the PairGain unit use standard phone wiring or does it require special > > > wiring on the part of the telco? > > > > > > > Well, standard DRY copper, no coils or anything like that. Any flavor of > > xDSL that you go with is going to require the same thing, dry pairs with > > NOTHING on them (no coils,voltage,etc).. > > Additionally, you often have to look out for bridged taps. The lower > speed xDSL (or DSL-like) products often tolerate them, but must full rate > DSL requires a bundle without them to be used, or for them to be removed. > > Removing them gets tricky sometimes. For example, there is one area of > Calgary that is soooo funky, the TELCO has NO idea what is going on with > the cables in the area. There are bridged taps all over the place, but > nobody knows where... and half the wires run under/over/around a large > shopping mall, and two main roads which intersect there. Basically, > NOTHING except voice lines is available in that whole area. :) > > OTOH, just about everywhere else in town works, at least for the "last > mile". I'm having a devil of a time trying to get them to admit that they > have pairs leaving downtown towards the exhange my house is on. grrrr > > How can you tell I'm currently battling the TELCO over dry copper? :) > > Later...... > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > .............. .................................... Thomas T. Thai Infomedia Interactive Communications tom@iic.net TEL 612.376.9090 * FAX 612.376.9087 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message