From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Apr 10 19:14:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17717 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:14:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.16.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17709 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:14:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (kosnax-30.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.64.34]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.8.8) id CAA13332; Sat, 11 Apr 1998 02:14:08 GMT Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07045; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:14:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Frank Pawlak Message-Id: <199804110214.VAA07045@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 21:14:05 -0500 (CDT) To: gurab@lineone.net Cc: grog@lemis.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Fw: Your Article "Freeware: The Heart & Soul of the Internet" In-Reply-To: <006901bd64e9$a6753a60$0300a8c0@admin.cian.net> X-Mailer: Ishmail 1.3.2-971023-FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg, Well said and absolutly correct. I hope you get the support you need. Frank "Christopher Raven" wrote: > It has been commented that over selling FreeBSD could be counter > productive by stereotyping its users. Quite possibly, but not pushing > at all could be just as devestating if not more so, if Linux consumes > the market who will support FreeBSD? > > Look at the Apple Mac - the supposedly independant platform, and now > part owned by its biggest rival. How? because Microsoft cornered the > software market and squeezed Apple over. If Linux corners all the > commercial support, who will use FreeBSD? Even though it is a superior > platform it could well end up largely unsupported. > > What I am trying to say here is FreeBSD *MUST* be pushed or it will > lose out to Linux period, and I don't think the Linux community will > buy into FreeBSD to help it. > > P.S. - why doesn't the FreeBSD team (or others) send FreeBSD > information to the broadcasting / publishing guys to promote another > such article (as per Linux) but about FreeBSD. I am sure that the BBC > could be grabbed - its a start isnt it? Even send me the info and I > can pester the UK media for you. > > > Chris R. > > [sorrry for the wasted bandwidth but I felt it had to be said.] > > > > > >On Thu, 9 April 1998 at 23:19:58 -0400, Open Systems Networking > wrote: > >> I think we SERIOUSLY need a PR plan of some kind. I think also we > can take > >> the gloves off and start kicking heads without getting nasty about > it. We > >> have several FACTUAL resources that they just CANT compete with. > > > >Does anybody out there care? What I see is that they will get the > >impression "these free UNIXes attract a strange, aggressive kind of > >person, each saying \"My UNIX is better than your UNIX\"". > > > >>> guys hasn't appeared to have won us anything but lots of nice > comments > >>> from folks like Marc A. at netscape to the effect that "Linux is > the > >>> only free OS alternative." I'm getting tired of that, and if it's > >>> going to take "breaking ranks" with the rest of the free OS > community > >>> to get our own message out, maybe it's time. > >> > >> I second this! But the problemhere is that we have zero PR. I am > not > >> making light of jordans efforts at all. His trips, his talks, his > free CD > >> handouts to promote FreeBSD. But the fact is we dont have any PR > that is > >> making any difference to anyone but geeks. ORA flat out annoys me > by > >> pretty much refusing to do a FreeBSD book. The only publisher I can > >> respect now would be addison wessley since they have seemed > interested in > >> publishing gregs book. I dont know what happened on that front. > > > >Neither do I. Time to nag, I suppose. J Carter Shanklin called me a > >couple of months ago and was really interested, but things seemed to > >cool off before he got the book (*if* he got the book). I will > >report. > > > >Greg > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message