From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jan 29 02:26:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA19624 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 02:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from maingtw.paume.itb.ac.id (maingtw.paume.itb.ac.id [167.205.22.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA19499 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 02:23:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from cnrg.itb.ac.id (cnrg.itb.ac.id [167.205.22.107]) by maingtw.paume.itb.ac.id (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id RAA07221 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:36:13 +0700 Resent-Message-Id: <199601291036.RAA07221@maingtw.paume.itb.ac.id> Received: from CNRG/MAILQUEUE by cnrg.itb.ac.id (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:26:05 +0700 Received: from MAILQUEUE by CNRG (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:03:38 +0700 Resent-from: "Arman Hazairin" Resent-to: freebsd-hackers@itb.ac.id Resent-date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:03:37 +0700 Received: from MAILQUEUE by CNRG (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 29 Jan 96 0:45:57 +0700 Received: from freefall.freebsd.org by cnrg.itb.ac.id (Mercury 1.12); Mon, 29 Jan 96 0:45:46 +0700 Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21883 Sun, 28 Jan 1996 08:58:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA21872 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 08:58:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [165.254.13.209]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21867 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 08:58:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-usr11.etinc.com (dialup-usr11.etinc.com [204.141.95.132]) by etinc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA09526; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:57:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:57:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199601281657.LAA09526@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) From: dennis@etinc.com (dennis) Subject: Re: Dennis' Behavior (was Re: Multi-Port Async Cards) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org X-PMFLAGS: 34078720 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk J. Wunsch writes.... >As Nate Williams wrote: >> >> [ Dennis's post ] >> >> > |>Flame bait ;-) >> > | >> > |only way to stir emotions in the passives. >> >> May I respectfully ask the members of the core team to consider banning >> Dennis from the mailing lists if he continues to posts like this. > >Dennis, do you have to tell us something to your defense? (I rather >think of a promise to stop this kind of postings in future, not of yet >another argumentation war.) Perhaps if you define the "kind" of posting that you're talking about? Ones that Nate doesnt like? Should I clear all of my postings with him before forwarding them to the list? I think that the fact that FreeBSDs (poor) dial-in capabilities are perhaps the single obstacle to much wider use are an issue for discussion. There are incredible inconsistancies in the "focus" of the core team, and if I'm going to abandon support for BSDI for Freebsd I have to be certain that the situation is workable. There is much discussion on nonsense like magazine articles and "exposure" for FreeBSD....yet there is weeks of discussion on writing drivers for ISDN when the regular modem stuff still doesnt work. It makes little sense to me. I made a "nice" post and no-one responded. Besides...you're free to not respond... the discussion on your reaction to my post is much more of a waste of time than a discussion of whether or not (and why) something as important as multiport hardware drivers are buggy. I think some good came out of it as well...as there seems to be at least 2 people willing to make the driver better and tackle the non-disclosure. What positives do you think will come out of your (and Nate's) discussion of "Dennis' behaviour"? Dennis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com Synchronous PC Cards and Routers For Discriminating Tastes. 56k to T1 and beyond. Frame Relay, PPP, HDLC, and X.25 for BSD/OS, FreeBSD and LINUX.