From owner-freebsd-security Wed Sep 27 20:54:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C99537B424 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA15387; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:54:06 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000927214450.04c02ec0@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:48:32 -0600 To: Wes Peters From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: sysinstall DOESN'T ASK, dangerous defaults! Cc: Drew Derbyshire , freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <39D2BEA4.A9FD13BD@softweyr.com> References: <39CB4C42.1A59669C@kew.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20000923222349.04919900@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:44 PM 9/27/2000, Wes Peters wrote: >> You forget: I wasn't the one who started this thread. I merely indicated >> my agreement. > >So now you're a majority of two? No; it seems more as if YOU are a minority of one. Unless I've managed to miss one, every other participant in this thread besides you has suggested some change to the default configuration. >Of COURSE an super-experienced hacker can determine why ftp, telnet, and >mail don't work out of the box and fix these user-hostile mistakes. If you think that people don't want things to work out of the box, you have not been listening. If you stopped hurling invectives and listened to what people were saying, we could have a reasonable conversation. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message