From owner-freebsd-ports Wed Oct 29 06:18:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id GAA17934 for ports-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 06:18:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-ports) Received: from crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk (csubl@crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.192.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA17926 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 06:18:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from csubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk) Received: (from csubl@localhost) by crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.7) id OAA09603; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:12:30 GMT From: Mr M P Searle Message-Id: <199710291412.OAA09603@crocus.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: 3.0-packages seem to be out of date. In-Reply-To: <199710290546.VAA24761@tao.thought.org> from Gary Kline at "Oct 28, 97 09:46:08 pm" To: kline@thought.org (Gary Kline) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:12:29 +0000 (GMT) Cc: csubl@csv.warwick.ac.uk, jkh@time.cdrom.com, asami@cs.berkeley.edu, ports@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > According to Mr M P Searle: > > > > > > For the next release, it's going to be one of the 3 following choices > > > for me: > > > > > > 1. I take over the building of packages myself so that I have more control > > > over when/where/how the packages are built. > > > > > > 2. This system of building packages is automated in a similar fashion > > > to the current.freebsd.org server so that some FTP site can simply > > > be mirrored by anyone wishing to build a CD (and as I'm not the only > > > person building CDs, this would probably be the most general solution). > > > > > > 3. We stop distributing packages and distfiles on CD, doing just the > > > ports collection and letting folks use the net to grab packages > > > or distfiles. > > > > Not everyone can do that though - it's a LOT easier installing xemacs from > > a CD than over a modem... (it probably takes a while to compile on a slow > > machine as well, although that isn't so much of a problem.) > > > > > > > > The current system is no longer workable, I'm no longer willing to do > > > things "the old way" - it's going to be one of these 3 options for 3.0 > > > / 2.2.6. > > > > > > Jordan > > What about a comprimise on #3; that any > binary/distfile in excess of 5MB be included > on the CDROM? Anything less than this can > eaily be built by the port. I'd rather keep all the distfiles, just remove packages. Anything over 1MB is difficult to get over a modem, and anything of any size is difficult to get by floppy net. (I had suggested using a better compressor a while ago, this was not done because of the large amount of CPU and memory used. Bzip2 is quite a lot faster than bzip and has a low-memory mode (using 2500k), so you may want to have another look at this. Compared to other high performance compressors, it is one of the fastest, and unpacking (of a distfile anyway) has got to be much faster than the actual build.) > > Whenever I find something in ports that I > want, I download the portfile and a simple > ``make install'' does it all. In a few > months the CDROM is passe... . > > gary > > > > > > > > > > -- > Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service uNix >