From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed May 3 9:33:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6124337BB1F for ; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:33:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boshea@ricochet.net) Received: from beastie.localdomain ([24.19.158.41]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000503163345.VJO25138.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@beastie.localdomain>; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:33:45 -0700 Received: (from brian@localhost) by beastie.localdomain (8.9.3/8.8.7) id JAA45328; Wed, 3 May 2000 09:43:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian) Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:43:39 -0700 From: "Brian O'Shea" To: Dragos Ruiu Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: The wrong way to deal with SPAM (was "Re: Spammage: I Surf, YOU GET PAID!!!!!! Promise") Message-ID: <20000503094339.B337@beastie.localdomain> Reply-To: boshea@ricochet.net Mail-Followup-To: Dragos Ruiu , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000503033451.ZMLO1339.mtiwmhc21.worldnet.att.net@default> <0005022217370R.00340@kyxbot.zorg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <0005022217370R.00340@kyxbot.zorg>; from Dragos Ruiu on Tue, May 02, 2000 at 10:01:41PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (excessive cross-posts removed from CC list) On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 10:01:41PM -0700, Dragos Ruiu wrote: > I would recommend that everyone who received this forward it back to > Mr. Pio at hspio@worldnet.att.net to make the point that this is > unacceptable behaviour. That's assuming that actually sent the spam. You know as well as anybody else that return addresses on e-mail are easy to fake. The message did come from worldnet.att.net, but the alias "hspio" could be a non-existant mailbox, or worse, an innocent third party. I sent a politely worded complaint to the postmaster at worldnet.att.net including the spam messages with all headers. They responded confirming that they received my complaint and told me to send future complaints to . They also said that they would "take appropriate action". We should stop posting about this now (I know how hypocritical this sounds coming from a posting!). But seriously, let's put this behind us and get back to hacking. Regards, -brian > > Just once each should suffice, and not contravene any usage policies :-). > > I did... Call it distributed spam negative reinforcement. :-) :-) :-} > Let's hope this will be sufficient to reinforce the lesson > about what not to do on public technical mailing lists. > > cheers, > --dr > > -- > dursec.com / kyx.net - we're from the future http://www.dursec.com > learn kanga-foo from security experts: CanSecWest - May 10-12 Vancouver > > Speakers: Ron Gula/NSW, Ken Williams/E&Y, Marty Roesch/Hiverworld, > Fyodor/insecure.org, RainForestPuppy/wiretrip.net, Theo de Raadt/OpenBSD > Lance Spitzner/Sun, Fyodor Yarochkin/KALUG, Max Vision/whitehats.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message -- Brian O'Shea boshea@ricochet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message