From owner-freebsd-install Mon Sep 25 22:34:15 1995 Return-Path: owner-install Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA12590 for install-outgoing; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:34:15 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA12574 ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:34:12 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA08880; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:33:57 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199509260533.WAA08880@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: "Installation" and "upgrade" To: chuckr@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: richard@harlequin.co.uk, freebsd-install@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Sep 25, 95 07:25:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2198 Sender: owner-install@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk well, what has changed? the bootloader. some tuning parameters the diskslice stuff basically looks the same 'on disk' (can handle old slices) I have 'upgraded' across every release since 386bsd 0.1 pl1 and whie I have usually newfs'd every partition at some time or other, I have always had a partition that I left alone here or there. there has never been a problem. > > On Mon, 25 Sep 1995, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > > > > > > > Keep up the good work. I wish I had time to pitch in. > > > > > > > > > > One good reason why you haven't found a method of upgrading from 2.0 to > > > another version, is because there isn't one. The filesystem changed > > > right after the release of 2.0, so upgrading to anything more recent > > > requires backup up your files, and doing a fresh reinstall. Believe me, > > > there's no way around it. > > > > > > The new install will reinstall your filesystems, with a newer variety, > > > based upon "slices". > > > > > > > this is a bit misleading. the new filsystems layed out in 2.0.5 > > are more optimal, but if you want to, you can just decline to newfs > > them and use the old partitions, and install new binaries onto them.. > > we can still read old partitions > > > > Julian, I think that's a bad thing to tell people. If anyone else > agrees, I'll stop saying this, but I think it's a real bad idea, for a > whole range of reasons. > > Besides having to deal with a boatload of howls from folks who lost their > files because they were told they could upgrade without the reinstall, > how are you going to troubleshoot future reported problems if you aren't > even sure of the underlying FS ? I don't like this idea ... > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data > chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. > 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | > Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD > (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- > >