From owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Fri Jul 13 17:16:54 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751921044BD5 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:16:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x22b.google.com (mail-it0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F17558FA49 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:16:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id w16-v6so12503004ita.0 for ; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 10:16:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=qIOnC8gexNco8SBkCc9sVo9cCqJReJZwNMxVgb8kCko=; b=hyawEuv1uPpzAe+5jrKIkvDFHCNi3CCH5yuFoDURQXz8SdQFWMBC/dRsgXWRdSfqUq 10eg60jBfKkI5zHODVZD3CbnLh2lyhl+MsY/FTTNpkj7erlyktO6dGB5E5FfDQ7G9qq3 ZnoKxUBYRptiPz1rO2qBF1ufiBki3cnpUKzzsf18BDkds4Gx/t6EtcBIV6ggBv6Hu8PM 2PDuXjwUt9aalTrvLFSYq5A2oECylyxUYxgE9AUGujPN9vJ9xTq79+TGHU6bbgqpuBe9 a80dfvfbV7BFIpxVXnR5/419uCWFauH9Sg6tOWbVtf6YO0mMjNigul/reuPPIU2KeJGN yGCQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qIOnC8gexNco8SBkCc9sVo9cCqJReJZwNMxVgb8kCko=; b=dGaUzCKMSRcp0Wypj32e33i9SLsxlT/hDENI8Kx3EYDeqBcuARJ8hGdR0qWkLu1bV2 Hr0zxY+BFyRzj2tbSOtnj6EupzwbPnyGwW9lPDtdzIfSNgOnOO/Kwg6f0EQ45H3W4YEf u9vkWmJevpX1zHWp8Rxwp1ss3hmxwQ2u+9/q3PFqV18m7v8WImTdBsVtEt6ccMyU+DTS +yPzubh2EcTkZU/IrLJEdrIBHjzeJyomJjcrrCVgh/5qvslDFcrFHxGdWOFwX1x0KAEb g2CC1fpDSTE51aWis+1EkRp9zl/MiNJY5NH6Jx3H48xFA6dRtDMGhTAIEOama9ZUd4z6 lpGw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlHLbYRVGemiUllfe7zJFw7dXuG+3iRJqJovj9flNKAhYHpfj9x0 syoC9s5ym1dSmZiocpVF61we21h6dFJOWFkvL6aSUg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcsQreNA6wVFgpyiWoOCEbQrskisAd3dmnEaPOY1XYhm2c2XAzfoA2tVNgUIZnxs4iYg1zn+1nfcGQI0qk+zZs= X-Received: by 2002:a24:ad28:: with SMTP id c40-v6mr5479700itf.36.1531502213134; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 10:16:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 2002:a4f:1183:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Jul 2018 10:16:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: <20180713171210.GD40394@cicely7.cicely.de> References: <20180713171210.GD40394@cicely7.cicely.de> From: Warner Losh Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 11:16:52 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: lJ2UNzqZkkysHJNdBrEJtVou6fQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Retiring two more: Atmel and Xscale To: ticso@cicely.de Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 17:16:54 -0000 On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:15:02PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > I'd like to retire Atmel and Xscale support prior to 12. The atmel stuff > > has been dodgy for a long time and generally lacks the memory to run > > FreeBSD well. We have no current users of it. > > [1]beaver.cicely.de> uname -a > FreeBSD beaver.cicely.de 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Nov 22 > 07:52:33 CET 2009 ticso@beaver.cicely.de:/mnt2/ > arm-2009-04-17/head/sys/arm/compile/BEAVER arm > > But yes, I think it is - unfortunately - a dead end with them and if I > ever intend to go for a more recent FreeBSD version I will also change > the hardware. Atmel does have a A5-based family, but nobody has done the work to port. If someone does, we can mine the repo for driver code that will be a good starting point. Warner