From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 19 19:15:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E778740C; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:15:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@FreeBSD.org) Received: from duck.symmetricom.us (duck.symmetricom.us [206.168.13.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C606BF; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from damnhippie.dyndns.org (daffy.symmetricom.us [206.168.13.218]) by duck.symmetricom.us (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r1JJEsrm008371; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:15:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ian@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [172.22.42.240] (revolution.hippie.lan [172.22.42.240]) by damnhippie.dyndns.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r1JJEkbQ050196; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:14:46 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ian@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: Why can't gcc-4.2.1 build usable libreoffice? From: Ian Lepore To: "Mikhail T." In-Reply-To: <5123CA4C.90703@aldan.algebra.com> References: <511CED39.2010909@aldan.algebra.com> <51238AE9.20205@aldan.algebra.com> <5123ADEC.2040103@aldan.algebra.com> <5123BE8E.2080209@aldan.algebra.com> <1361297952.1164.83.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <5123CA4C.90703@aldan.algebra.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:14:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1361301286.1164.93.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Chris Rees , Adrian Chadd , office@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 19:15:02 -0000 On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 13:54 -0500, Mikhail T. wrote: > > Licensing prevents us from updating gcc in the base. > Licensing? Could you elaborate, which aspect of licensing you have in > mind? Versions of gcc after the 4.2.1 version we use are licensed under GPLv3. I'm not a lawyer, so I don't understand all the fine details of why GPLv3 is bad for the freebsd project, but I accept the analysis and decisions the project made on that subject some time ago. As you might imagine, switching to a new compiler isn't something you decide to do this afternoon and finish up tomorrow with a big checkin. It takes many months of testing and iteratively fixing bugs... bugs found in the new compiler, and bugs the new compiler exposes in the existing source base. I think we've been able to cherry-pick a few specific fixes from gcc upstream that weren't encumbered by GPLv3, but for the most part I think nobody is actively maintaining the GPLv2 code anymore. -- Ian