From owner-freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mon Jul 31 14:55:34 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F3DDAFC00 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:55:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew.hamilton-wright@uoguelph.ca) Received: from CAN01-TO1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-eopbgr670073.outbound.protection.outlook.com [40.107.67.73]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT SSL SHA2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD6FC7DCA8 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:55:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrew.hamilton-wright@uoguelph.ca) Received: from YTXPR01MB0270.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (10.165.218.154) by YTXPR01MB0270.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (10.165.218.154) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.1282.10; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:55:31 +0000 Received: from YTXPR01MB0270.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([10.165.218.154]) by YTXPR01MB0270.CANPRD01.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([10.165.218.154]) with mapi id 15.01.1282.023; Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:55:31 +0000 From: Andrew Hamilton-Wright To: "freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org" Subject: why recommend "portmaster -af" for full port rebuild? Thread-Topic: why recommend "portmaster -af" for full port rebuild? 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There is even a recommendation that '-G' be a= dded to avoid interaction involving configuration screens. This, however, ignores the many other interactions that portmaster still wi= ll require. Is there no way to rebuild the ports without interaction? It seems that ev= en with portmaster -afG --no-confirm -y I still get a long parade of interaction requests -- far more than I would = if I used portupgrade. I will note that Doug Barton, the author of portmaster, seems to advise aga= inst using it in this form, as noted in this thread: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-August/051623.h= tml Why is portmaster being recommended on this page, and if this is the best o= ption, why is there no discussion of the many interactions that will be req= uired (in spite of the implication of the discussion of the '-G' option)? Thanks, Andrew.