From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 25 21:46:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9FD16A41F; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:46:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C0B43D7E; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:46:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC6C1A4D93; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6FE0955A57; Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:46:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 17:46:03 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Jakubik Message-ID: <20060425214603.GA59437@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20060424202859.GA18457@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060425004405.G44618@woozle.rinet.ru> <20060424205026.GA18844@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060425134418.J57625@woozle.rinet.ru> <20060425080932.1rv9hq0rcws4wc84@www.wolves.k12.mo.us> <20060425162656.GC54244@xor.obsecurity.org> <20060425213313.R71240@woozle.rinet.ru> <444E8E48.8040008@rogers.com> <20060425211417.GA58948@xor.obsecurity.org> <444E96A1.3010307@rogers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <444E96A1.3010307@rogers.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Cc: stable@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org, Dmitry Morozovsky , Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: fsck_ufs locked in snaplk X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:46:23 -0000 --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 05:37:37PM -0400, Mike Jakubik wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >This is true, but I hope you recognise that a good part of the > >responsibility for this falls on the users when asked to test proposed > >fixes. If the developers are not aware of remaining problems they > >can't reasonably be expected to fix them :-) > > =20 >=20 > Indeed, but the developers should also realize that a lot of users have= =20 > servers in production and can not afford the downtime, or simply don't=20 > have the resources to test. I think the developers should also spend a=20 > little more time doing more extensive testing of their own code. Thanks for your opinion. Kris --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFETpiaWry0BWjoQKURAhckAJsHlvzuj4hXhqwAJUhLzg9IyYkFbgCfWSn7 UqU+bh7sH29APxIMSPTubAY= =Xxjh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pWyiEgJYm5f9v55/--