From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 15 06:23:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E5026C07 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 06:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD5511DBF for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 06:23:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=neDqtgnHuVGRXk1RpJju6Sm9HW3M1pJoQbV6kMWZ/2o=; b=O2527mkVwVrdhqLQjUdQhoAU+zeZzkLsI3rXZlOI6ZuGYeja1q3JuSNZK4T+JDOUXfome9v46hpY1DR6CnDRDxzu2OKN5vN/kT+ogHjrdQQDrpken/bVSnJ9pSzI9jCUOq/L0gJwtrZecD5rhy2AeT66T0MPNTUr7JneSzyUb0c=; Received: from [39.198.48.52] (port=55821 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1W3Jsw-0002bH-Sx; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 23:23:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 14:23:25 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Polytropon Subject: Re: Combining pkg and "traditional ports" --> spam Message-ID: <20140115142325.4f7c20e6@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <20140115063634.d6d26d51.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <20140115063634.d6d26d51.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: FreeBSD Questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 06:23:33 -0000 Hi, I just noticed a new method spammers are using. I have answered to this e-mail and get then from outside the mailing list spam to the account I use at the mailing list. Of course, this means that some people are harvesting now addresses in real-time and send out spam. As nobody knows the address of the harvester, not much can be done. Did anybody else notice this? Erich On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 06:36:34 +0100 Polytropon wrote: > With the upcoming OS standardization on pkg (pkgng) following > the abolishment of the pkg_* toolset I'd like to ask questions > to those who already actively use pkg and have probably encountered > and solved the same "problems" that I'll be expecting: > > There are two cases where a binary package can't be used: > > a) There is no package. > > Not all ports have equivalent packages. For example, I've seen > this recently for OpenArena. In this case, compiling is needed > (and even switching to gcc instead of clang, OS v10-RC2). Another > example is a localize OpenOffice / maybe LibreOffice. > > How is this handled when a pkg-based "upgrade all" is performed? > > b) The default options of the package can't be used. > > My favourite example is mplayer (including all imaginable > codecs as well as mencoder and additionally the gmplayer > and gmencoder X applications), but it could also apply for > a HAL-less X and HAL-less applications. But also OpenOffice > can be considered again, a localized version (german) with > dependencies for KDE, Gnome and CUPS deactivated (because I > don't use those). > > Can those be protected from being overwritten? > > Is there even a method of saying, like, "use binary packages > to upgrade everything excepts ports 'foo', 'bar', 'meow' and > 'moo', compile those, but make sure their dependencies are > installed via packages when they are available and apply"? > > > > From my experience so far, pkg works really great. I'd just > like to know how it can be used in the few cases where the > exceptions need to be made intendedly. > >