From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 22:11:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D54A16A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:11:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from kane.otenet.gr (kane.otenet.gr [195.170.0.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8657C43D2F for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:11:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b207.otenet.gr [212.205.244.215]) iBNMBGBo003408; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:11:17 +0200 Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id iBNMBDqv001912; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:11:13 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id iBNMBBOC001911; Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:11:11 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 00:11:10 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Sally Hines Message-ID: <20041223221110.GA1390@gothmog.gr> Mail-Followup-To: Giorgos Keramidas , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6e01203b04122309064e682e1c@mail.gmail.com> <000001c4e934$9290f080$6400a8c0@musal32mpxlg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c4e934$9290f080$6400a8c0@musal32mpxlg> cc: 'Mervin McDougall' cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: 'Tyler Gee' Subject: Re: Manpage interpreter X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 22:11:20 -0000 On 2004-12-23 13:15, Sally Hines wrote: > > I've been subscribing to this list for over 3 years. I initially > subscribed to the -questions list also, but I couldn't handle the > volume, and also couldn't interpret the language used there. I need to > learn in a language that I know, or at least get an interpreter for > the manpage-ese that's used in replies to questions on that list. Whenever the answer to a question seems confusing you may, of course, ask for extra details, a clarification, etc. :-) > I ask a simple question, how do I automate ports update? I get "read > the manpages" or quoting from the manpages which is written in a > language foreign to me, but masquerades as English. Where can I get at > least a good, simple glossary for the terms used in the manpages and > on the questions list? I have recently started using portupgrade. It's a wonderful set of tools, but it may get a bit technical at times. Ideally, the upgrade of all ports installed on a system is an easy 3 step process. 1. Update your Ports tree with CVSup. # cvsup -g -L 2 -h cvsup.de.freebsd.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile 2. Install the portupgrade tools from the Ports: # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/portupgrade # make install # make clean 3. Let portupgrade update all the ports: # pkgdb -F -u # portupgrade -a -N -vu -rR > I asked questions here, and got yelled at, at great length. I have not > posted to this list for over a year because of that. The freebsd-newbies list is not really meant to be a list for questions, AFAIK. You should ask by posting at freebsd-questions. When the responses seem intimidating or confusing, ask for clarification of the points you didn't understand :-) > Sally Hines > With a broken FreeBSD box If you need any help to fix that, either reply to this post (I have redirected replies to freebsd-questions *and* me), or mail me privately. Cheers, - Giorgos