From nobody Fri Apr 1 03:17:18 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50AAA1A4CAE9 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2022 03:17:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ggm@algebras.org) Received: from mail-lj1-x22e.google.com (mail-lj1-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KV52M3b1Yz4gf6 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 2022 03:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ggm@algebras.org) Received: by mail-lj1-x22e.google.com with SMTP id o16so2241937ljp.4 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2022 20:17:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=algebras-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9oHlnu0n4aDycqLx/0tJBDGNT6Ng6SbqHmXmgQM6jMc=; b=R/wEvvjU/bWOSXDA57cMA9qYrySwpueK+Y1ycrJrtnM1TueQ+24zXCsOFeFrEbZJ6n +Tiz5kxZoBs0HgPslI6bNVzTf+A8E1MXvxLg9NJAFBBfmDliYZfBUMq2tCElwPaUhPZ6 r2RsS0ioMIA0qrN0/bp895XxareeyDJDfwDGV45mRQCwBqSQxx5q4WRLDR5V40aR4zpU pHneF9+8m9b2KbiwCEtMzNlAzAcbux9xhe/R+GqwSw0hhsKcnh3GGAni1n4FyPffxjkn opwGn+8Aaf7McMydgby8Kxtpx5FeIps3v/v0wvaOmBb6xZvgLAKs3nOCFzrDizA96xqh BYag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=9oHlnu0n4aDycqLx/0tJBDGNT6Ng6SbqHmXmgQM6jMc=; b=A2Mxx3Fyq1fyae1NyuzKDzagiQSnrzefPsUfL/JkX54iuGiBuFINma6aWNWgGMgm00 4n0IEuBU6p6QBkuKGRYe/LKh4bKYFyLFHfUsbPq+L4BE9ZA/1LKYjbgTZRz0BFrr08rh Irziyr+mWXIm/DOVNSaaWZR05UwQY1Ahm08fm4D1lhVFA/2usjDKcOzK0JdLhkLKQ8wp vKjFyTt/6Y1TXGNmm0PLkuFpThsg/iKVeJ/3XiLNItZh6lST6jGzZQmnQW3G4nVdpLWo Fl46MQRxeE6CKMSHsL+SztI2GFN+9bzSxCpPAuJGjb2HIzavRPZkZuI0EnKqtWHnGd57 1hQA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532OR18xlPnWxKMfEFjHc2cI8dVo/2VibcrXe05w6dcXtUppMVnT sOKPJpcU2AJ7Z9AmoxzZirsVAI0VyGLmTKIX9EG0NyUBY4o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz4anYN5B5nduqurkYYH70MxQXeRyG76eK/YvtxJsoVKoMAHWXt/bH1SH11fFQiKuglE8uKBcdgreAsqh9gO4Q= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:81cc:0:b0:249:766a:d4af with SMTP id s12-20020a2e81cc000000b00249766ad4afmr12267132ljg.220.1648783049009; Thu, 31 Mar 2022 20:17:29 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: George Michaelson Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 13:17:18 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: 12.1 bootblocks the last known good choice for older Dell h.w To: FreeBSD Stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4KV52M3b1Yz4gf6 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=algebras-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b="R/wEvvjU"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ggm@algebras.org designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ggm@algebras.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.49 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[algebras-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[algebras.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[algebras-org.20210112.gappssmtp.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::22e:from]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N a Dell (not the one with the cam problem I posted about as well today) refuses to get. beyond BIOS device detection on any bootblocks after 12.1. I've tried every .iso 12.2 through to FreeBSD-Current snapshots, and they all display the same problem hanging on the bootable drive detect phase. I don't like running newer kernels on old MBR bootblocks. Maybe I'm wrong, but I always do gpart bootblocks update for a major FreeBSD upgrade. Is there some debug possible on the MBR boot stage? I see no path in, to get more message. I am loath to over-diagnose this, it is possible /boot/loader.conf is working but the delay between runtime and output to console means I "see" the problem as during MBR phase. The last thing to happen is the first "/" of the text spandrel is drawn. That's it. There is a BIOS upgrade for this box. Its on a 2020 BIOS, the 2022 edition appears to be mitigations for CPU attacks, it doesn't mention any boot time stability issues. G