From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 28 23:21:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C552969 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 23:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D9F1268 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 23:21:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id ar1so26517627iec.6 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 15:21:48 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=zoVi1h5IwTx1KaasxCuR+b71fTM9wyZCXwTPISmQl20=; b=B88Kd/vfLkY0klpvVTvBJ0/KInw+PXRG88JkEcimO4keYt2cYCA+fPu3PjyQVGRRqa kVJqFZ7sycmVN/oNf9jdc8zSHpK0UvdWNAaJ1NYa6s4WkElTZZhNbIXmKQMdpfmd7YIL LqCkXfWFLuGsrp0Ohsmfpcl5huyMkvWBISF0sAubWz2rhpzOttSIJ7R8DmtsqGHXKjH8 /DnkxOGEeNvYyR4ujJajOFBa8Wa0lBv51ObgfE4e4xa6X1z6jzsJkDCjMfPv4Z7xD2Pj t9gHXpmrDwM28N+4EoMbnrep5cdmMbg0FWFlM6VuXJWxaZOPMVeej3eiV1pFh2QkqABK TOoQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlQtfgFDcZdnayWzffKfdjC2wONekVnAsOnS2ibwRJdAjSKDWSIaWOy8V0okGkt3+vNhkmD9pMIYB2ptCixbF+HKmS/vA3+Z9kmzuFVdHR27LaFKbLpveCjB9Z5kjyTx8NcJVvO X-Received: by 10.50.78.202 with SMTP id d10mr6753918igx.30.1422487308338; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 15:21:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.5.136 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 15:21:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20150128201440.GA73589@cicely7.cicely.de> References: <20150128183231.GI58886@cicely7.cicely.de> <1422473251.15718.70.camel@freebsd.org> <20150128201440.GA73589@cicely7.cicely.de> From: "Lundberg, Johannes" Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:21:32 +0900 Message-ID: Subject: Re: System-On-Module To: ticso@cicely.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Current , Ian Lepore , "freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 23:21:49 -0000 Thanks a lot guys. I can specify a bit more details. We don't need any sd-card, sata or external storage. Just the internal eMMC is enough. Display output can be DSI, LVDS or something that can easily be serialized to transfer over 2 wires. If WiFi and Bluetooth 4.0 is on the board that'll also be great. And of course, it would be helpful if the said board also is available as development kit... If the first tests are ok (tests can be done using Linux if FreeBSD doesn't run out of the box) we're looking to buy a larger amount, at least >1000 to start with. We are flexible about prize and size of the board. Atom is preferable over imx6, but I'll check out what you recommended. Thanks again! Ps. Hopefully we can also provide development boards for anyone who wants to help with porting out of own interest. -- Johannes Lundberg On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:14 AM, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 12:27:31PM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote: > > On Wed, 2015-01-28 at 19:32 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 06:52:52PM +0900, Lundberg, Johannes wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > Of all the low power, high-spec system/computer-on-modules out ther= e > which > > > > have best support for FreeBSD? > > > > > > > > MEN > > > > Variscite > > > > Technologic system > > > > Adlink > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > What I am looking for is a system with roughly this specs > > > > ARM or x86, 64bit if possible. > > > > 2-4 cores > > > > 1.5-2.0 GHz > > > > 2 GB RAM > > > > ~16 GB Storage > > > > USB 3.0 > > > > PCB size about one to two credit cards. > > > > > > In that range I would go for a Wandboard. > > > They are 1, 2 or 4 core iMX6 32bit with 512M, 1G or 2G RAM. > > > The 4 core has SATA, which to my knowledge we don't support yet. > > > They come with 2 useable SD-card slots - one on the module and one > > > on a carrier board. > > > Clock rate is 1GHz only IIRC and they only have high speed USB, > although > > > the newest carrier boards have some super speed wiring for future > modules. > > > > > > TechNexion, the originator of that module system also has some > > > x86 boards - some may fit your requirements, but those are at > > > a higher price and bigger form factor. > > > Tech Nexion also has iMX6 boards similar to the wandboard with > > > different featuresets, but also at a higher price. > > > > You do get more for that higher price with the Technexion EDM modules, > > namely 1.2ghz chips instead of 1.0, and parts that are industrial and/o= r > > automotive temperature-rated rather than consumer grade. On the other > > hand, you generally can't buy Technexion modules one at a time. Last > > time I checked they were minimum order 10 pieces even from resellers > > like Mouser and Digikey. > > Temperature rating - that can easily justify the higher price. > > > Another small-board imx6 possibility is the Hummingboard from SolidRun. > > I now have freebsd running on a SolidRun Cubox-i4, so I expect no large > > drama in getting it working on other SolidRun imx6 products. Gonzo > > ordered a Hummingboard recently, so we should know for sure some time > > soon. > > To my knowledge they come in 3 different sizes. > I own the biggest two versions of them. > Completely forgot that the Hummingboard uses modules as well and the > modules are even very small. > > -- > B.Walter http://www.bwct.de > Modbus/TCP Ethernet I/O Baugruppen, ARM basierte FreeBSD Rechner uvm. > --=20 =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- =E7=A7=98=E5=AF=86=E4=BF=9D=E6=8C=81=E3=81=AB=E3=81=A4=E3=81=84=E3=81=A6=EF= =BC=9A=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E9=9B=BB=E5=AD=90=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81= =AF=E3=80=81=E5=90=8D=E5=AE=9B=E4=BA=BA=E3=81=AB=E9=80=81=E4=BF=A1=E3=81=97= =E3=81=9F=E3=82=82=E3=81=AE=E3=81=A7=E3=81=82=E3=82=8A=E3=80=81=E7=A7=98=E5= =8C=BF=E7=89=B9=E6=A8=A9=E3=81=AE=E5=AF=BE=E8=B1=A1=E3=81=A8=E3=81=AA=E3=82= =8B=E6=83=85=E5=A0=B1=E3=82=92=E5=90=AB=E3=82=93=E3=81=A7=E3=81=84=E3=81=BE= =E3=81=99=E3=80=82 =E3=82=82=E3=81=97=E3=80=81=E5=90=8D=E5=AE=9B=E4=BA=BA=E4=BB=A5=E5=A4=96=E3= =81=AE=E6=96=B9=E3=81=8C=E5=8F=97=E4=BF=A1=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3=81=9F=E5=A0= =B4=E5=90=88=E3=80=81=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E3=83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81=AE= =E7=A0=B4=E6=A3=84=E3=80=81=E3=81=8A=E3=82=88=E3=81=B3=E3=81=93=E3=81=AE=E3= =83=A1=E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=E3=81=AB=E9=96=A2=E3=81=99=E3=82=8B=E4=B8=80=E5=88= =87=E3=81=AE=E9=96=8B=E7=A4=BA=E3=80=81 =E8=A4=87=E5=86=99=E3=80=81=E9=85=8D=E5=B8=83=E3=80=81=E3=81=9D=E3=81=AE=E4= =BB=96=E3=81=AE=E5=88=A9=E7=94=A8=E3=80=81=E3=81=BE=E3=81=9F=E3=81=AF=E8=A8= =98=E8=BC=89=E5=86=85=E5=AE=B9=E3=81=AB=E5=9F=BA=E3=81=A5=E3=81=8F=E3=81=84= =E3=81=8B=E3=81=AA=E3=82=8B=E8=A1=8C=E5=8B=95=E3=82=82=E3=81=95=E3=82=8C=E3= =81=AA=E3=81=84=E3=82=88=E3=81=86=E3=81=8A=E9=A1=98=E3=81=84=E7=94=B3=E3=81= =97=E4=B8=8A=E3=81=92=E3=81=BE=E3=81=99=E3=80=82 --- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: The information in this email is confidential and intended solely for the addressee. 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