From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Sun Apr 15 14:19:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5644F967A7 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:19:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CE49764BA for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:19:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id w3FEJVSS046363; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 07:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id w3FEJVi4046362; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 07:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201804151419.w3FEJVi4046362@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: High rate of NFS cache misses after upgrading from 10.3-prerelease to 11.1-release In-Reply-To: <5AD3554C.8030906@grosbein.net> To: Eugene Grosbein Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 07:19:31 -0700 (PDT) CC: Rick Macklem , Niels Kobschaetzki , "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 14:19:41 -0000 [ Charset windows-1252 unsupported, converting... ] > 15.04.2018 19:58, Rick Macklem wrote: > > > Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: > > [stuff snipped] > >> It is a website with quite some traffic handles by three webservers behind a pair >of loadbalancers. > >> We see a loss of 20% in speed(TTFB reduced by 100ms; sounds not a lot but >Google et al doesn?t like it at all) after upgrading to 11.1 with a combined upgrade >to php7.1. On another server without NFS that upgrade improved performance >considerably (I was told ca 30% by the front end-dev) > > One thing you could try is booting the 11.1 kernel on an 10.3 system. Newer > > FreeBSD kernels should work with older userland. > > Though one should remember that some important system utilities > may and probably will not work with newer kernel, like /sbin/ipfw, route, > ifconfig, netstat etc. I thought that as long as the newer kernel has the right COMPAT_FREEBSD10 compiled in that all this stuff should work. Am I miss understanding this kernel option? > > > This would tell you if it is kernel changes or userland changes that are causing > > the higher miss rate. > -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org