From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 12 02:01:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 00CAD36B; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 02:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.crittercasa.com (mail.turbofuzz.com [208.87.221.144]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED5A3645; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 02:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kruse-49.3.ixsystems.com (unknown [69.198.165.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.crittercasa.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3CB67164842; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:51:56 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1822\)) Subject: Re: patch for /usr/src/usr.bin/fmt/ (not 8 bit clean) for German & French From: Jordan Hubbard In-Reply-To: <201311120106.rAC16BNC066644@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:51:56 -0800 Message-Id: <4F82F771-E4D2-400F-B2A4-085595B507DA@turbofuzz.com> References: <201311120106.rAC16BNC066644@fire.js.berklix.net> To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1822) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 02:08:04 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.16 Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, "Bernhard Riedel \(Work\)" , Astrid Jekat , Christian Weisgerber X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 02:01:27 -0000 On Nov 11, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > I don't know about ISO 8859-1 and UTF-8, (I dislike & avoid > national char set stuff as much as possible), but I want Well, nobody can ever accuse you of following the herd! If there ever = was a herd you were a member of, in fact, I=92m sure the species has = long since gone extinct. ;-) Seriously though, this war is over and UTF-8 won. There may be some = small pockets of resistance, but they=92re demographically less than = significant (insert standard analogy here of soldiers still fighting = WWII on isolated islands in the Pacific). The Linux crowd switched as = early as 2002, and OS X has been using UTF-8 on the CLI as the default = for at least 5 years now. Required reading: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html http://www.madboa.com/geek/utf8/ P.S. UTF-8 is not a =93national character set=94 either. It was = actually invented by Ken Thompson in 1992 and drawn on a placemat = (http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/utf-8-history.txt). It has an = excellent pedigree. :) - Jordan