From owner-freebsd-chat Fri May 26 16:39:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n0b.san.rr.com (dt051n0b.san.rr.com [204.210.32.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF6C37B95D for ; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:39:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (doug@master [10.0.0.2]) by dt051n0b.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA82574; Fri, 26 May 2000 16:39:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <392F0B39.FC7F84F2@gorean.org> Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 16:39:37 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT-0523 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: gh , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why encourage stupid people to use *BSD WAS:Re: IE forFreeBSDPetition References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Jason C. Wells" wrote: > > On Fri, 26 May 2000, gh wrote: > > >Thank you, good sir, for completely ignoring my statements. > > > >I said that we should not encourage the *worst* of *any* usergroup to > >use FreeBSD. I said specifically that I encouraged bringing people to > >FreeBSD, but not forcefully shoving the lowest denominator into the > >FreeBSD world. > > You argument is still arrogant and elitist. All denominators should come > and we should welcome them. While I agree with this on principle, and have worked very hard for the last several years to "lower the bar" for competent freebsd administration, the plan fact is that at some point on the curve you run out of resources to support people with a very low clue factor. If you're willing to put your fingers where your mouth is and answer the questions, write the documentation, do the patches, etc.; that's great, and we will welcome your contributions. But in this context simply saying, "FreeBSD SHOULD do X" is not very meaningful. Doug -- "Live free or die" - State motto of my ancestral homeland, New Hampshire Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message