From owner-freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Thu Jan 28 17:28:35 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-pkgbase@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96E6A70B1C; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x22e.google.com (mail-pa0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAFD31E91; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:28:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pa0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id uo6so26772823pac.1; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 09:28:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=yQpMa7oONmmsb8OFgjGg2Ymu70h5oHAEfnqSpiPqIhs=; b=cMNwLdSuQ1pYE9eJdvW37gPF447pL/a9lw/eJIEYe8jFPp9i+y4oqLCRDDkK84kjTe IxL1A9UXMiiJH14vUkDX7o0jikv8UEviEZQOff10SygU0pVryDFFFKfijyvCAHqwxRNl WI0pMzwdfD/c+bp599sD2m6EpL8UbrrikpKdGtNnvNU9/VwzkMTDUIDsH1dL/9ht1JFp eJjUcRO49qzf0LDqSxIMC1NZHTZ59HiteYfy5XvW6PBFr3KBvUPc23hWiqJraOMMLUhO iZAHqOpDA9+hqNIAwpb80pnEXhr+lR+RB1rs3NWTLh5TefdPTyXjW9kzFkLde13i8fh0 beCw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=yQpMa7oONmmsb8OFgjGg2Ymu70h5oHAEfnqSpiPqIhs=; b=LooJ2qJKB+WO8Ls3cE86D/pVAogYRMnZjljEujijaBH6oX5c6LVuQLVsKjT+2Y8QJ/ GDDPmMGIontU7HCXvFXfCecOxY36EMnUCDGtuAvJZcCHVA3+eKArrRVKLjCkUCdUFo25 LnMjRMi1yZPP61FQ8yuDfkiamIA/6MBRwwn4mziVYB/op2NCAxxTGuVBMRKiuUAKMP/2 4lCotH653IhA2pVBosRQKrQCcg2soUDwX47hMkVeIxW7TbnKfPSASV6s+Ns9443SB5Ya rKGnP3YCh2nd+ByQ3nBI8ZWUaDFVo2hNdjdoOmz7jkovA8JiwS2vwUNa0/+PlsgcQAzZ GH2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQf/GjTm30hpHjGwUnB7HrCP0KkRmB5nJjSspj9lvI2mv38+BrQH+dhry6zxoFKuQ== X-Received: by 10.66.216.69 with SMTP id oo5mr6157951pac.126.1454002115354; Thu, 28 Jan 2016 09:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [22.160.77.234] ([172.56.38.103]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f12sm17809236pat.20.2016.01.28.09.28.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 28 Jan 2016 09:28:33 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: Packaging the FreeBSD base system with pkg(8) From: NGie Cooper X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13D15) In-Reply-To: <20160128160622.GB88527@zxy.spb.ru> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 09:28:32 -0800 Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , Thomas Mueller , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20160127223323.GG98557@FreeBSD.org> <183431.62409.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20160128131806.GB67200@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160128160622.GB88527@zxy.spb.ru> To: Slawa Olhovchenkov X-BeenThere: freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Packaging the FreeBSD base system." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 17:28:36 -0000 > On Jan 28, 2016, at 08:06, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: ... > What about upgrade strongly outdated system? > For example 11.0 at time 18.0? I.e. packages for 11.0 don't available, > pkg from 11.0 don't undertund package base from 18.0 and etc. This is an important question to ask and solve. There might be points in tim= e where seamless upgrades are not possible, and instead you need to hop from= release to release (this is not ideal, but it could happen). For instance, at $work we're allowing upgrades from version X to Y, and Y to= Z, but not direct upgrades from X to Z. Part of the rationale behind this c= hange is, deprecation of platforms and the change in upgrade framework, whic= h requires upgrading from blessed releases proven to work with the new frame= work. Thanks, -NGie=