From owner-freebsd-arm@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 5 21:43:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9E6CB9 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 21:43:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Received: from nahkohe.jetcafe.org (nahkohe.jetcafe.org [205.147.26.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09398FC08 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 21:43:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Envelope-To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Received: from [205.147.26.5] (hokkshideh4.jetcafe.org [205.147.26.5]) by nahkohe.jetcafe.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id qA5LhUIS040032 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:43:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50983301.9040406@jetcafe.org> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 13:43:29 -0800 From: Dave Hayes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120612 Thunderbird/13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Kientzle Subject: Re: announcing the availability of packages for the Arm architecture References: <1351606727.1120.17.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <5097263F.5090802@jetcafe.org> <1D4ECD72-D01D-48D3-B837-735176CC49D3@kientzle.com> In-Reply-To: <1D4ECD72-D01D-48D3-B837-735176CC49D3@kientzle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the StrongARM Processor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 21:43:37 -0000 On 11/05/12 07:33, Tim Kientzle wrote: > > On Nov 4, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Dave Hayes wrote: > >> On 10/30/12 07:18, Ian Lepore wrote: >>> All in all, I have the impression that not many people "use" freebsd on >>> arm at all. >> >> Just getting to the point of "using" it is quite time intensive. I ran out of time trying to get my dreamplug to where I want it. These issues were in my way (this was some time ago, check the list for dates): >> >> - install requires non-trivial patches and kernel config > > There are a few people working on build systems to > simplify this. My scripts work pretty much "out-of-the-box" > for RaspberryPi and BeagleBone now and should be easily > extensible to other platforms. Where are these scripts? I'd like to try them. Part of my problem is that I routinely build customized versions of FreeBSD for specific applications, so I don't like just using a canned script...I like to understand the process. Unfortunately there's a lot of patching and config/make kernel/re-config cycles to get something right. > FreeBSD ports team is now building packages for ARM. That's great news and I saw some of that. Some users might still like to be able to customize a port build, but for most users that would be fine. > Even if you prefer a "more beefy" system like the DreamPlug > or PandaBoard or … , consider getting a RaspberryPi as well > and tinkering with that for a little bit. It's only $35. I saw that too. Let me say that those are amazing computers at an awesome price. Add a cheap usb disk and you likely have a workable desktop. The problem is, as usual, a lack of quality tinkering time in my world. Once I get my dreamplug working as a firewall...maybe. :D -- Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>>> *The opinions expressed above are entirely my own* <<<< "Man is the only creature that refuses to be what he is." --Albert Camus