From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Apr 25 00:27:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915B9CA8; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:27:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E28E15F2; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (Scott4long@pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r3P0Gg31004404; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:16:42 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from scottl@samsco.org) Subject: Re: ada(4) and ahci(4) quirk printing Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Scott Long X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <4D28DBAE46424C268AA22FCDD8657946@multiplay.co.uk> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:16:42 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5B93288D-7C5B-403B-863A-658A063A4C2B@samsco.org> References: <20130422051452.GA2148@icarus.home.lan> <51763BF9.2000506@FreeBSD.org> <20130423092602.GA58831@icarus.home.lan> <51765466.4040209@FreeBSD.org> <4D28DBAE46424C268AA22FCDD8657946@multiplay.co.uk> To: Steven Hartland , Alexander Motin , Jeremy Chadwick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-50.0 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on pooker.samsco.org Cc: Kenneth Merry , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Stable" X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 00:27:57 -0000 On Apr 23, 2013, at 4:33 AM, Steven Hartland = wrote: >>>=20 >>> If we can't reach an agreement, I'm happy to wrap the relevant bits = with >>> an "if (bootverbose)", but I really feel users should have some way = to >>> see this information outside of bootverbose. >> Both da and ada drivers already have sysctl's. It should be trivial = to add one more, especially if just numeric. >=20 > Wouldn't camcontrol be a better place for this? Yes, the forest of CAM sysctl's needs to be trimmed and discouraged from = growing. I like Jeremy's original proposal for exposing quirk = information, and I think that it would be served well via camcontrol, = not the console or sysctl. Scott