From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 12 13: 1:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDE737B424 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 13:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4CK0l319381; Sat, 12 May 2001 13:00:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: bzdik@yahoo.com Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Crap OS X In-Reply-To: <20010512192328.71978.qmail@web13602.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010512041306.A87740@xor.obsecurity.org> <20010512192328.71978.qmail@web13602.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010512130047Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 13:00:47 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 69 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, as you put it, there are all sorts of "mac nuts" who'd like things to stay exactly as they were. There are also a lot of OS/2 nuts still out there who pine for the days of OS/2 and wish microsoft would just come to their senses and stop doing Windows already. There's even the remnants of the Amiga community who are still hoping that AmigaOS will come back. At the same time, there also exist a large number of people who would like progress to occur and refuse to have anything to do with all these retro fanatics. :) My point? There are all sorts of people with all sorts of tastes and this doesn't make any particular set of opinions any more "valid" than the others, including, of course, yours. I happen to like OS X and like it quite a lot. I'm sure there are also others who will stop running OS 8.x (9.1 being far too new and funky for their tastes) when you pry it from their cold, dead fingers. "It takes all kinds." - Jordan From: Bzdik BSD Subject: Re: Crap OS X Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 12:23:28 -0700 (PDT) > --- Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 08:54:24PM -0700, Bzdik BSD wrote: > > > > > > I am removing it and going back to 8.6 for production needs. > > > And I am not alone. > > > > > > http://dealchat.com/mac/read.html?id=429845&thread=429845 > > > > I don't know how big that site is, but there are only about 10 > > negative posts in that thread..that isn't very much of a backlash, > > when you consider that any nontrivial change to a product with such a > > hard-core group of followers is going to piss people off. > > > > Kris > > The very though that a negative comment could ever possibly appear on a > Mac board is a heresy. You thought you saw loyal fanatics in Linus > camp? You haven't seen anything untill you meet us, Mac nuts :). > And that board is also frequented by PC people as well, - very good > deals on all kinds of hardware not only Apple stuff. > > I don't need a Mac for xvzf|\@\-ing. I need it to grab something, drop > it somewhere flip it over and be done with it. I don't need no freaking > inetd, crypto-quazi-schmazi-zomething. Give me anything that will come > close to Eudora, MT-NewsWatcher on a Mac or The Bat! on Windows after > 30 years of Unix growth. Still using Netscape on Solaris? My > condolences. The same goes to people who serve on Windows. There is > no Universal Tool(Unless you are MSFT employee). But for the desktop, > Oonixen will have to go yet another 30 years. KDE, my ass. Try to offer > it to somebody who has to meet a deadline. It's a pity they killed Be > OS... one of few truly innovative things. > I don't really need a multiuser box in my home the only merit of which > is that it's 10 years old and still working. I have a 10 year old LC475 > with much nicer interface that runs MacSSH for me when I need to > administer that BSD box I also love :)) > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message