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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 2298e56d28d490b1fcd2334c165f1a45; Tue, 31 Mar 2026 20:44:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <78579d41-41bf-4532-bfce-bf1fa71912d9@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2026 13:44:49 -0700 List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: 504 gateway time-outs From: Mark Millard To: Philip Paeps , Graham Perrin Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <1895ba62-b069-4e28-a910-6c666703ee8e@gmail.com> <5739E595-8A9F-4968-BA58-8D32F9E7E1C1@freebsd.org> <632811c3-8661-4c07-8267-c9830a0be92b@yahoo.com> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <632811c3-8661-4c07-8267-c9830a0be92b@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.25449 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[freebsd.org,gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.64.206:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.64.206:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4flg9G5Hm7z3Wpc X-Spamd-Bar: --- On 3/31/26 12:37, Mark Millard wrote: > On 3/31/26 06:25, Philip Paeps wrote: >> On 2026-02-28 19:32:35 (+0800), Graham Perrin wrote: >>> On 28/02/2026 10:32, Mark Millard wrote: >>>> The following got "504 Gateway Time-out" when I tried them: >>>> >>>> >>> amd64-default&build=pdf4f957ea181_s178d0b5b8d> >>>> >>>> >>> mastername=150amd64-default&build=df4f957ea181> >>> >>> Both somewhat slow to load, however they do load for me. >> >> I only just noticed this thread, sorry for resurrecting it. >> >> I've noticed that beefy23 and beefy24 (2x EPYC 9254, 512G RAM) sometimes >> get too busy building to schedule nginx (or sshd).  They eventually >> manage to plough through.  Usually. >> >> That causes the 504 timeouts if you're going through pkg-status.f.o.  If >> you're going directly to beefyX.chi.freebsd.org you'll just get a timeout. >> >> They're running exactly the same poudriere.conf as the other builders.  >> I wonder if our calc_builders() function that tries to assign about 12G >> per builder isn't quite right for this particular configuration of cores >> and RAM. >> >> I haven't had a chance to look closely.  As far as I can tell the builds >> do eventually succeed.  If the only problem is "I can't obsessively poll >> pkg-status in real time", it's not a very high priority. :) > > It is mostly not having a clue about the distinction between "the > overall build failed somehow, such as by the builder system crashing" > and "you just can not observe anything now but the system is still". > > I was explicitly asked to not send in notes about potential failure > symptoms so I no longer add to the clusteradm workload in such cases. > > [I do wonder if those builders are, over significant times, > page-thrashing or anything else that might suggest mis-tuning to the > point that the overall builds take notably longer. I do expect load > averages generally larger than the FreeBSD count of cpus for keeping > overall elapsed times smaller: otherwise there is likely unused idle > time not put to useful work. But that wording ignores issues like > page-thrashing consequences that can be involved for too much RMA+SWAP > resource intensive activity in parallel if some mutual exclusion of huge > builders is not prevented.] I will say that, for being able to check the build status of specific packages from prior builds that have completed, I'm not a fan that those type of checks are sometimes blocked by "504 timeouts" for unrelated activity. It is more obvious for a bulk run that is in progress. (But that should not establish any significant priority status overall.) [Prompted/reminded by trying to answer a question in a way that involved the status of xfce4-desktop in fairly recently completed builds: I hit the "504" issue and could not check the status of such.] Use of https://portsfallout.com/server related activity does not report on skipped or ignored, only failed. It never indicates that any specific builds actually were completed successfully vs. skipped/ignored. > >> >> This is on my list.  It's just a VERY long list. :) > > Yep. > >> >> Philip >> >> > > Thanks for the notes. > -- === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com