From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 16 17:59:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB9E16A531 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:59:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net (sccrmhc12.comcast.net [204.127.202.56]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3150943D2D for ; Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:59:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from garycor@comcast.net) Received: from [10.56.78.111] (pcp09118143pcs.union01.nj.comcast.net[69.142.234.88]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with ESMTP id <20040916175942012007ervfe> (Authid: garycor); Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:59:42 +0000 Message-ID: <4149D73C.5030309@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:11:08 -0400 From: Gary Corcoran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sam References: <41483C97.2030303@fer.hr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 17:59:43 -0000 Sam wrote: > On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Jan Grant wrote: > >> On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Sam wrote: >> >>> Let's suppose you generate an exabyte of storage per year. Filling a >>> 64-bit >>> filesystem would take you approximately 8 million years. >> >> >> Hang on, I'm not sure I know where these numbers are coming from. >> >> 1PB is - what? 2^50 bytes? That looks closer to 2^64 than your >> figures indicate. I'd imagine an exabyte a year ought to be topping out >> after 16 years. I'm missing about half-a-dozen orders of magnitude >> somewhere it seems. > > > 1PB is indeed 2^50 bytes, but filesystems don't address on the byte, > but on the block (1K, 4K, 8k, ...). The numbers I'm using assume > the filesystem addresses on the sector, which is unrealistically > small. Jack it up to a 16K blocksize and you jump a few hundred > ZB in size. You have to be able to *seek* on a byte boundary. Hence doesn't a "64-bit" filesystem indeed mean "only" 2^64 bytes? Gary