From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Wed Sep 14 19:51:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7283BBDADFC; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5824E1577; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4845316AD; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:51:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA5F22BDE; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:51:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.xzibition.com Received: from mail.xzibition.com ([172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (mail.xzibition.com [172.31.3.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id r1Munk9fqjbE; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: svn commit: r422154 - head/misc/fortune_strfile DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 mail.xzibition.com CEDF122BBA To: marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org References: <201609141925.u8EJPJb8077087@repo.freebsd.org> <2be2dfc7-2be7-aaf3-7510-58279dea9e37@marino.st> From: Bryan Drewery Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 12:51:03 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Uwu6Nuea6eSU3CHQWncv4E5SF4OMhSN1c" X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 19:51:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Uwu6Nuea6eSU3CHQWncv4E5SF4OMhSN1c Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="H1dddGKoWF9sbhbP75ifkvrtD8Gg1N4fD"; protected-headers="v1" From: Bryan Drewery To: marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r422154 - head/misc/fortune_strfile References: <201609141925.u8EJPJb8077087@repo.freebsd.org> <2be2dfc7-2be7-aaf3-7510-58279dea9e37@marino.st> In-Reply-To: --H1dddGKoWF9sbhbP75ifkvrtD8Gg1N4fD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 9/14/16 12:48 PM, John Marino wrote: > On 9/14/2016 14:44, Bryan Drewery wrote: >> On 9/14/16 12:28 PM, John Marino wrote: >>> On 9/14/2016 14:25, Bryan Drewery wrote: >>>> Author: bdrewery >>>> Date: Wed Sep 14 19:25:19 2016 >>>> New Revision: 422154 >>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/422154 >>>> >>>> Log: >>>> Mark deprecated as it has no maintainer and is already in base. >>>> >>>> With hat: portmgr >>>> >>> >>> >>> Really? >>> >>> Very mature and classy. >>> I solved a problem and you're flexing muscles. >>> >>> Are all portmanagers on board with this? >>> >>> John >>> >>> P.S. If you want, I'll get into a commit war and take it back. >>> You'll win. >>> >> >> Ports need maintainers. It is standard practice to deprecate ports >> without a maintainer, though usually after a much longer time frame. = We >> can either do this right away or let this rot for that period and wast= e >> time on the package build cluster. Portmgr's who have weighed in on >> this are in agreement that the port never should have been committing >> and dropped like it was, and there is growing consensus that it should= >> just be deleted. So I've marked it deprecated. >> >> It's also questionable why we need this at all since it is in base >> already and is not receiving updates. If we had a packaged base syste= m >> it would perhaps make sense to have a port, but we're not there yet. = I >> have not seen any valid justification for the port in the first place.= >> >> Also, there are no "laws" here except for the CoC. There are only >> conventions and guidelines, and portmgr has the ultimate say over port= s >> as a whole. This clearly was committed/dropped against the spirit of >> the conventions, regardless of any pedantic reading of any guideline. >> >=20 > I find it extremely doubtful you don't understand the point of the fix.= > I'm trying to decide whether or not to start shucking off many more > (all?) of the 70 ports that I current maintain because I really don't > need this vindictive grief. I thought we were past all this. >=20 > JOhn >=20 John, Please take a deep breath. This is not personal, please do not make it s= o. Please review https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html "Do not make it personal. Do not take it personally." --=20 Regards, Bryan Drewery --H1dddGKoWF9sbhbP75ifkvrtD8Gg1N4fD-- --Uwu6Nuea6eSU3CHQWncv4E5SF4OMhSN1c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJX2aonAAoJEDXXcbtuRpfPYQ4H+QHGmnSEMrITMkBpr7m8TmOb 72uAO632iVjuMmYfNvWEZvGtsCD911Ksf8vIC9G73VPGHQQevLHKuDaRAn6XUJOr OHUBx3ynDqWBtXZ/9rWa3fpFUXMXUM0xC0B91oZs4G5OKv+Gb+LsZAml5SlFH/j8 a/9Qwdrq5AEGhO9fFkbHHGFIjCnGzjj1Si8O+0Fys/g8qW8q3CVURolQzmLJ+I4b /nCZYtQNSvNQRd2avduTK+HNZbIyccy6qI/G+8SAi+L5zmIupDJGgozU3au6GeJ7 Kx8Vf+IQtO9pigQwLDEzVH1lpqw5EL5h3Rlft7uzO30DegUNes3I6Vl9uz8Jc0U= =d0gi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Uwu6Nuea6eSU3CHQWncv4E5SF4OMhSN1c--