From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 25 23:47:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2FF16A400 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from duane@greenmeadow.ca) Received: from smtpout.eastlink.ca (smtpout.eastlink.ca [24.222.0.30]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB0643D46 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:47:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from duane@greenmeadow.ca) Received: from ip01.eastlink.ca ([24.222.10.5]) by mta01.eastlink.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IWP00FZ6JFCKQB0@mta01.eastlink.ca> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:47:36 -0400 (AST) Received: from blk-224-199-230.eastlink.ca (HELO [192.168.0.103]) ([24.224.199.230]) by ip01.eastlink.ca with ESMTP; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:47:35 -0400 Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:46:38 -0400 From: Duane Whitty In-reply-to: <44255554.6080200@cogeco.ca> To: Tim Message-id: <4425D65E.9090102@greenmeadow.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAA+k= References: <44255554.6080200@cogeco.ca> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060309) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Not an easy install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:47:36 -0000 Tim wrote: > Why couldn't you guys make a install easy instead of this and that, ok > I am a newbie and it should be easy, I have installed Ubuntu, it was > like a dream, smooth as silk, Fedora pretty much the same FreeBSD, its > a nitemare if you have never done it, I am now reloading windows and > then putting back Ubuntu, unless someone over there can make it simple > even for me. > > > Tim Stevens > Hi Tim, I've been using FreeBSD for a few months now after an absence of about 10 years. Believe me when I say it's way easier now and pretty much just as easy if not easier as an initial install of say, Solaris(tm) or many Linux(tm) distros which vary widely in how "easy" they are to install. So anyway, hopefully you are installing the latest released version of FreeBSD intended for general use, FreeBSD 6.0. Here are the two most important things you can do! 1)Be open to learning something new and forget your expectations. There is a learning curve but it is not that bad. 2) Read the FreeBSD Handbook! I can't stress this enough. Don't try reading it from start to finish; just read the chapters on installing the system and basic setup. Personally I always enjoy reading the introduction and I probably read the installation chapter, Chapter 2, six or more times. Here is the URI for the Handbook, assuming you want the English edition. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html Now many on this list may disagree with me but I have always found that choosing the Custom instalaltion (even though it says it's for experts) has been the easiest and most likely to succeed method of installation for me. The installation chapter will help you with choosing your disk layout. My one issue is the recoomended size of some of the partitions. If you can spare the space I'd go with about 1GB for /, /tmp, and 2 GB for /var. This should let you get started without "complications". They aren't the exact values recommended in the Handbook, if I recall correctly, bu they work for me. Oh yes, set your swap to 2 time your amount of RAM (I am assuming you have a modern system, more or less, with at least 256MB of RAM). After you partition and label your hard drive choose your distribution set. I recommend choosing All under distributions. As well, when prompted as to whether or not you want the Ports infrastructure, say yes. It will be worth it when (if) you really start using FreeBSD. Choose your media. CD works well and so does FTP. DHCP configuration of the network works well for me. I always use passive FTP for my installs because I am behind a firewall. If you keep and open frame of mind, ask for help on a specific issue, and provide details about your system and what you are trying to do you will receive a lot of help. No one likes being told that something they invest a lot of time in sucks by someone who does not use the system. Please remember that everyone here is a volunteer. If and when you get the base system up and running ask for help to get a GUI running and how to get different applications running and you will probably receive what you ask for. *** Always Read The Handbook First *** For what it is worth FreeBSD 6 is the only operating system on my computer. It didn't start off that way but for philosophical reasons that's the way it is now. I'd be more than happy to expound those reasons off-list to anyone who would care, but then everyone has their own reasons. These are my opinions. Your mileage may vary, use at your own risk, etc., etc. Best of luck to you. Sincerely, --Duane Whitty