From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 30 19:59:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8308516A4CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:59:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B361A43D45 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:59:41 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd-mobile@m.gmane.org) Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BqdX3-00028E-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:59:09 +0200 Received: from makrothumia.wingnet.net ([206.30.215.5]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:59:09 +0200 Received: from jesse by makrothumia.wingnet.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 21:59:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Jesse Guardiani Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 15:59:05 -0400 Organization: WingNET Lines: 56 Message-ID: References: <20040729213847.T96671@volatile.chemikals.org> <20040730154847.4A6855D08@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: makrothumia.wingnet.net User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 X-Mail-Copies-To: never Sender: news Subject: Re: new laptop suggestions - not the usual stuff X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: jesse@wingnet.net List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:59:42 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote: >> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:39:16 -0400 (EDT) >> From: Wesley Morgan >> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org >> >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Dan Langille wrote: >> >> > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Wesley Morgan wrote: >> > >> >> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Ray Seals wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 2004-07-24 at 19:27, Michael W. Oliver wrote: >> >>>> Ok folks, I know that this comes up from time to time, and I know >> >>>> very well the FreeBSD laptop compatibility list (which rocks!), but >> >>>> I think this case is different, and here's why. >> >>>> >> >>>> I am looking for a new laptop that has the following features: >> >>>> >> >>>> 1) pointing stick in keyboard *THIS IS A MUST* >> >> >> >> These are sadly becoming harder to find, despite their obvious >> >> superiority to the "touch pad". I was very put off when Toshiba >> >> dropped their Satellite Pro line that featured this! I'll have to hang >> >> on to my current laptop forever. >> > >> > IBM are committed to the stick I think. >> >> Yeah but the keyboards on thinkpads suck. All springy and stiff :) > > Odd. We have always used ThinkPads in my organization and the keyboard > is the one reason IBM has won the last two times we have evaluated > laptops on the basis of their excellent keyboards. > > I did a bit or research into them and IBM actually did human testing to > determine the what trained typists liked in terms of force required, > length of key travel and tactile feedback and designed their keyboards > accordingly. I have loved mine from the first time I used it, though I > won't claim to be a trained typist. > > My only issue with ThinkPads is the price and I've always found them to > be worth it. > > A happy 560, 600E and T30 user. :) I'm fairly certain Mr. Morgan was attempting to utilize the fine art of sarcasm. It's hard to tell from an email though. I almost wrote a similar rebuttal before I saw the smiley at the end of his comment. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net