From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 10 22:50:13 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571CA106564A for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:50:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rick@rix.kiwi-computer.com) Received: from rix.kiwi-computer.com (66-191-70-202.static.stcd.mn.charter.com [66.191.70.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE5458FC12 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:50:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 29677 invoked by uid 2000); 10 Sep 2010 22:23:31 -0000 Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:23:31 -0500 From: "Rick C. Petty" To: Achilleas Mantzios Message-ID: <20100910222331.GA29252@rix.kiwi-computer.com> References: <86sk1hk8xa.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <201009101658.04567.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201009101658.04567.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Cc: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: this is probably a little touchy to ask... X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: rick-freebsd2009@kiwi-computer.com List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 22:50:13 -0000 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 04:58:04PM +0300, Achilleas Mantzios wrote: > > Because tones of app(let)s were written on this technology, and those running them cannot afford rewriting them. > its easier to just fix the plugin than rewrite every applet on earth using javascript. Javascript doesn't provide everything that Java does, for example: threads, socket connections, audio, file system access, native integration, etc. Also although some implementations of javascript are quite fast, Java still outperforms them for most operations. Also, DOM manipulation is terribly slow compared to Swing even. Someone else wrote: > > Java had its day. Time to move on. HTML5 can't do many of those things either. Flash at least gives you all of that except native integrations (which is unimportant for browsers). Flash and Java won't go away until all of those problems are solved by other means. HTML5 is *not* the final solution for the web by any means. Although, I'd take h.264 support any day over applets. =) -- Rick C. Petty