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Date:      Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:53:51 -0800
From:      "xavian anderson macpherson" <professional3d@home.com>
To:        "Steve" <vandena@ispchannel.com>, <questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: installing freebsd from windows nt without using boot disks
Message-ID:  <001401c05bc8$0c20d900$40461418@salem1.or.home.com>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0012010643530.38897-100000@MyFreeBSD.ispchannel.com>

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it didn't take six days to install NT.  I INSTALLED IT IN ONE HOUR, after
spending six days trying to get freebsd to run.  freebsd was running after
my first attempt.  i am no idiot.  i tried to install xfree86 version 4.0
after having first installed version 3.3.6 or whatever it was that was the
base package.  after trying to do that, i nolonger had use of the
x-terminal.  i tried to remove the version 4.0, but i got nowhere with that.
i didn't want to erase everything that i had installed, just to start all
over again.  i had downloaded over 8 GB's of software from the web. i did
not want to go through that all over again.

i got freebsd on SEPTEMBER 30.  i got WINDOWS NT on OCTOBER 5.  after
removing the linux boot sector on the disk i wanted to use, it took me less
than one hour to format and install NT.  i have been running it ever since.
I DON'T WANT TWO SEPARATE OPERATING SYSTEMS, I WANT ONE WHICH WILL GIVE ME
UNIVERSAL COVERAGE OF BOTH WINDOWS AND UNIX.  THAT IS WHAT I BELIEVE
MICROSOFT IS INTENDING TO DO WITH INTERIX, WHEN THEY PUT IT INTO THE
SERVICES FOR UNIX PACKAGE.  THERE WILL BE ONLY ONE!  LONG LIVE THE
HIGHLANDER `GATES'.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve" <vandena@ispchannel.com>
To: "xavian anderson macpherson" <professional3d@home.com>
Cc: <questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: installing freebsd from windows nt without using boot disks


>
>
> On Nov 30, xavian anderson macpherson enlightened us with the following:
>
> > i purchased freebsd about two months ago.  i have not yet...
> <big snip>
> You don't mention if you read the 800-page handbook...
> >
> > i was forced to use the ftp server as my source of installation;
> <big snip>
> Why would you want to run an OS on another OS?  Also, why would FreeBSD
> want to provide "REAL SOLUTIONS for NT"?  I've installed and ran NT at
> work for the past eight years and have only used FBSD for about 8
> months.  Give me a FBSD machine over winblows any day.  (And this coming
> from an MCSE+I)
> >
> > NT has something that the standard UFS does not have.  it has an
integrated
> <big snip>
> Have you looked at Exceed by Hummingbird Communications?  And you
> obviously did not read the info on Windows NT Services for Unix.  And I
> quote:
> "The Microsoft Windows NT Services for UNIX Add-On Pack provides access to
> core interoperability components in an integrated, fully supported
> package. Benefits include lower deployment costs, improved support for
> mixed environments, and the most complete integration with current and
> future Windows NT-based technologies and initiatives."  Bottom line...it's
> a SERVICE that runs on NT to connect to a Unix machine.
> >
> > quite frankly, if i find the means to compile XFREE86-4.0 and gnome for
NT,
> <big snip>
> XFree and Gnome running on NT?  <gasp!!!>  What unix component run under
> windoze?  I haven't seen any yet that provide the same functionality as on
> a FreeBSD machine.
> >
> <small snip>
> >to use freebsd.  i installed NT (six days) after becoming thoughroughly
> >frustated with freebsd.  i need to have a completely functional
> >heterogenious operating environment.  one which runs windows nt and
freebsd
> >on the same computer (preferably with only one filesystem; NTFS
> >COMPRESSED).
> I'm curious...how did it take you SIX DAYS to install NT?  If it takes
> that long to install something that an monkey can be trained to do, why
> were you trying to install an OPERATING SYSTEM that requires one to know
> the specifics of their system on top of another operating system that will
> do a mindless install of it's own?
>
> Each OS has it's own particular strengths and weaknesses.  But as I become
> more and more familiar with FreeBSD, Windows is quickly taking a back
> seat.  If you have questions, ask them.  There are people here who are
> very good at providing solutions.  But not when you rant and rave.
>
>
>
>
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