From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 14 10:25:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F4A37B401; Wed, 14 May 2003 10:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [213.235.167.218]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6095443F85; Wed, 14 May 2003 10:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by mail.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9546442A; Wed, 14 May 2003 19:25:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 08B272FDAB2; Wed, 14 May 2003 19:25:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 19:25:30 +0200 From: Roman Neuhauser To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20030514172530.GO1036@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: John Baldwin , Wes Peters , Jordan Hubbard , hackers@freebsd.org References: <200305131922.33556.wes@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i cc: hackers@freebsd.org cc: Jordan Hubbard Subject: Re: Supposed lack of code from Apple X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 17:25:36 -0000 # jhb@FreeBSD.org / 2003-05-14 11:14:38 -0400: > > On 14-May-2003 Wes Peters wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 May 2003 01:57, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > >> > >> jkh@freebsd-> grep DOOFUS /usr/include/sys/errno.h > >> #define EDOOFUS 88 /* Programming error */ > > > > I think your tie is knotted a bit too snugly, it's cutting off the flow > > of blood into your brain. > > > > If Apple wants to import FreeBSD code (it has been a very one-way > > street, hasn't it?) > > Just a comment here. I think this last statement is bull. Apple > has made lots of bugfixes to our code available in Darwin. All it > takes is for someone to extract their lazy rear from a chair and > import those fixes. We don't import our fixes into Darwin, Darwin > developers do that. In the same way, it is rather absurd to > require Darwin developers to backport their fixes to FreeBSD. That > is the job of FreeBSD developers. As an example of how this can > work, see the recent fixes to smbfs that bp@ imported from Darwin. As far as I know Covalent's and IBM's developers *do* work on mainstream Apache in they day work. But don't read this as a support to Wes' position. I'm undecided. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html