From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 16:47:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07FA16A4CE for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:47:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (coyote.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A13843D45 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 16:47:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 25EA114D; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:47:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:47:17 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20040110004717.GL451@seekingfire.com> References: <3FFB7F8F.3010101@mindcore.net> <20040107134537.GA415@dhumketu.homeunix.net> <3FFF3801.6000107@mindcore.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FFF3801.6000107@mindcore.net> X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-GPG-Key-ID: 828AFC7B X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5584 14BA C9EB 1524 0E68 F543 0F0A 7FBC 828A FC7B X-GPG-Key: http://www.seekingfire.com/gpg_key.asc X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1i Subject: Re: Commercial Distribution? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 00:47:19 -0000 On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 06:23:45PM -0500, Scott W wrote: > That still doesn't remove (IMHO of course) the validity of my statement > about calling FreeBSD and OS but Linux not based on licensing- FreeBSD > wouldn't exist in it's current incarnation without the use of GPL and > GNU software. Nor would Linux. I agree that basing what an operating system is on it's license doesn't make sense in this context. It does make sense to determine whether or not something is an operating system by looking at what it /is/, however. FreeBSD is an operating system. RedHat Linux (or Mandrake Linux or whatever distribution you happen to like) is an operating system. "Linux", without qualifiers, is a kernel and not an operating system. Analogy: It can be debated that MS-DOS is an operating system. COMMAND.COM, however, is not. > Note that isn't a slam by far in any ways- I certainly use both on my > own servers, and would likely choose *BSD over Linux for client's web > and mail/external accessible sites So would I, since (excepting the possibility of in-kernel HTTP servers and in-kernel data files) you'd need more than just Linux to operate a web server. If FreeBSD was not available I'd consider an operating system like RedHat Enterprise Linux as a web server. -T -- "A computer is like an Old Testament god, with a lot of rules and no mercy." - Joseph Campbell